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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail

Post by bbeduhn » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:07 pm

I checked out the tallest chestnut oak and white oak on the trail. The chestnut oak has grown a bit. Another tall white oak was located, making it the second 130 footer on the trail. This white oak forks very low and is deceptively tall, likely why I'd missed it in the past.

chestnut oak 135.4'
white oak 132.2'
white oak 131.0' new find

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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail

Post by bbeduhn » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:52 pm

I measured this Virginia pine to 112.1' about 5 or 6 years ago. It has grown substantially to 117.8' at 6'3" cbh. It resides near the Swannannoa River and Route 40, off the Blue Ridge Parkway.
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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail

Post by bbeduhn » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:55 pm

New Buncombe County height record white oak 138.3'

I'd passed this tree many times on the trail. It is behind some big and tall red hickories so I was distracted by the hickories and hadn't noticed the white oak until recently.
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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail

Post by bbeduhn » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:47 pm

Here are some numbers from the area by the tall white oak from the previous post.

white oak 138.3'

red hickory 132.0' 130.2' 129.5' 128.5' 126.7'

tulip 150.5' 143.8' 143.7' 141.2'

This is just the second spot on the trail where tulip tops 150'. The red hickories have some age. Many older trees live along this section. This is surprising because it is very close to Asheville. It follows an old road bed, and much like along the Rattlesnake Lodge road, which this old road may have linked up to, the owner refused to clearcut along the road.

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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail

Post by bbeduhn » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:50 pm

Rattlesnake Lodge old road/MST

tulip 137.1' 133.5'
walnut 120.3' 116.2'
cherry 112.1' 111.3'
mockernut 112.9'
yellow birch 73.4'
white ash 128.8'
red oak 133.4'
scarlet oak 118.9'
white oak 129.6' 128.7'

This road/trail has a significant amount of old trees. The cherries and walnuts are standouts.

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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:37 am

I checked on the tall tulip from post #32. It remains about the same. I got 157.4' versus 157.2' from before so no change. Fortunately, I noticed another tulip very close to it that was at a slightly lower elevation which surpassed it at 163'. This is a new Buncombe County record but Will did find one in the watershed that may equal or surpass it. A red hickory was measured in the county about a decade ago at 163', but it is not easily accessible due to its location on private property.

Liriodendron tulipifera 163.0' 157.4'

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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:56 am

I checked some trees along the MTS Trail between Hendersonville Road and 74A. I didn't get much in the line of increased heights, with one major exception. The largest white pine had been struck by lightning and is now completely dead. It had measured at 11'9" and 141' several years ago. I imagine it made it to 12'2" or so but a strip of bark and wood is missing along the trunk, preventing a true measurement. It had been losing height over the last few years.

The tall white pine grove had its tallest struck by lightning as well. It measured to 146' after the strike and death. Others in the grove reach the mid 140's but one has yet to top 150'. Nearby, the chestnut oak remains at 135', but the tallest white pine has increased 3.5' to 158.5'. Its neighbor, a shortleaf, stands at 117.0'

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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail

Post by bbeduhn » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:52 am

Update on the Ramble Groves, located along the Blue Ridge Parkway and the Mountains-to-Sea Trail, near Hendersonville Road. The former county champ pitch pine has lost a few limbs and is down from its peak at 124.8' to 121'. Its crown is very thin so I would suspect it has just a few years left. A new pitch pine has ascended in its place.

Pinus strobus

147.0' 147.0' 144.3' 143.8' 143.5' 143.4' 142.2' 141.8' 141.4' 140.9'

Pinus rigida

124.0' 121.0' 120.9' 119.0' 118.2' 117.7' 113.2' 111.9' 110.0'

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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail

Post by bbeduhn » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:28 am

Some updates on the WNC Arboretum:

I ran the Shut-in Trail and noticed some interesting trees along the entrance to the Arboretum. I hadn't realized an unusual species was planted along the trail. I'd measured red pines along the entrance road to the Arboretum but these were planted in the forest. They are a bit taller than the intermediate forest red pines along the road. The loblollies continue to grow, reaching nearly 140'. The river birch is the tallest I've measured in the county. Dawn redwood is approaching 130'. Six pine species top 100' and seven conifers top 100'. The whitecedars are impressive. One stood out from the rest.

Betula nigra 92.8' 77.5'
Tilia heterophylla 120.5'
Pinus strobus 132.3'
Pinus taeda 138.2' 132.4' 128.5' 126.2' 122.1'
Pinus rigida 109.3' 108.0'
Pinus Virginiana 104.3'
Pinus echinata 104.4'
Pinus resinosa 101.6' 97.9' 95.8'
Metasequoia glypt 128.9' 125.3' 120.5' 120.2' 119.3'
Thuja occidentalis 81.6'

At mouth of Bent Creek at the French Broad River
Platanus occid 127.1' 126.6'

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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail

Post by dbhguru » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:23 am

Brian,

Pretty impressive. Are the Arboretum managers aware of your measurements? So far, I've seen no evidence that most arboretum personnel have mastered height measurement, so we have a mission to bring them up to date.

Bob
Robert T. Leverett
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Co-founder and President
Friends of Mohawk Trail State Forest
Co-founder, National Cadre

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