Biltmore Estate Trees

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Re: Biltmore Estate Trees

Post by bbeduhn » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:54 pm

Jess,
It looks like T. Occidentalis but I'm not 100% certain of it, especially at Biltmore. I haven't seen a T. Plicata up close but it appears to not be a plicata. Platycladus is a remote possibility.

The 135' baldcypress just keeps growing consistently. It's in a mini gorge so it's well protected by hemlocks, white pines and hardwoods. The 124.9' is also putting on height rapidly and is also well protected.

I'm not getting enough time to measure but at least I'm getting a little bit.
Brian

On further examination, it is certainly plausible that it could be a plicata. I'll get pics and samples soon.

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Re: Biltmore Estate Trees

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:44 pm

I checked out the garden today to get accurate measurements on some over-measured trees, due to a clickover in my laser. I nailed these with two different lasers so I'm confident in these heights. The Rucker Index will suffer accordingly but I found a stellar pignut that will break into the top ten.

Bigleaf Magnolia is colonizing in at least four spots in the forest above the record holding 76.8' tree.

Interesting note about white ash. It seems to be much more prevalent on the Estate than Biltmore ash, yet Biltmore ash seems to be much more prevalent in the county. I assume the white ash was mostly planted as Biltmore is the dominant ash in the area.

Edit: I forgot to mention the sourwoods. These all grow on uplands and appear rather young.

White pine 155.6' from 158.1'

Dawn redwood 126.7' from 130.1'

Dawn redwood 124.7' from 126.4'

Oriental spruce 119.0' from 122.3'

Norway spruce 130.0' from 133.6'

and on to increases in height

Atlas cedar 102.0' from 97.4'

Mockernut hickory 122.1' from 119.6' current record holder for girth @ 142"

new finds

sourwood 76.3' 78.8' 80.9' 81.8' 88.8' 3 now over 85' on the Estate

white oak 115.8' 116.4'

black oak 108.4' 116.6' new record for the estate

chestnut oak 105.7' 108.2'

scarlet oak 114.0'

white ash 115.3'

walnut 102.5' 117.5'

Pignut hickory 130.7' tallest hickory on the Estate

Oriental spruce 100.4'

Longleaf pine 73.4' 81.8'

Euro silver fir 80.2'

Pacific silver fir 74.5' 96.0'

Japanese Katsura 65.9'

Ginkgo biloba 75.3'


Conifer R10 130.25'

Pinus strobus 155.6'
Tsuga canadensis 144.2'
Larix decidua 136.9'
Taxodium distichum 135.0'
Picea abies 130.0'
Metasequoia glypto 126.7'
Pinus echinata 120.0' needs more careful measurement
Picea orientalis 119.0'
Pinus resinosa 118.4'
Abies homolepis 116.7'

Rucker overall

Pinus strobus 155.6'
Tsuga canadensis 144.2'
Liriodendron tulipifera 143.4'
Larix decidua 136.9'
Taxodium distichum 135.0'
Platinus occidentalis 131.5'
Quercus rubra 130.8'
Carya glabra 130.7'
Picea abies 130.0'
Fraxinus americana 128.7'

Tilia tomentosa 127.9'
Metasequoia glypto 126.7'
Juglans nigra 124.7'
Ulmus laevis 124.0'
Carya alba 122.1'
Tilia americana 120.0'
Pinus echinata 120.0'
Picea orientalis 119.0'
Quercus alba 118.5'
Pinus resinosa 118.4'


R10=136.68'

R20= 129.41'
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Re: Biltmore Estate Trees

Post by Don » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:02 am

Not everyone can get away with measuring a stellar pignut without a smirk or two...:-)
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Re: Biltmore Estate Trees

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:09 am

I got back to the probable champion mockernut to get spread numbers and pictures from all sides.

The second tallest white pine, on the approach road, has reached the same height as the former tallest white pine, in the azalea garden. The tallest baldcypress has had the ground cover removed from its base so it's much easier to determine midslope. I got just a hair shorter than the previous measurement but I was also closer to the tree so it may go a foot taller since it has a relatively flat topped crown. Both baldcypresses had been previously measured. The chestnut oak should be the tallest I've found on the estate.

Carya alba mockernut hickory

height 122.7'
girth 11'10.5"
spread 75.5' on 3 spokes

Pinus strobus 155.6'

Below dam

Taxodium distichum 134.7' 124.2'

Quercus montana 129.1'

Quercus coccinea 114.9'
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mockernut trunk 2
mockernut trunk 3
mockernut trunk 3
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mockernut trunk 4
mockernut crown 1
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Re: Biltmore Estate Trees

Post by bbeduhn » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:04 pm

Just some quick updates on a handful of trees:

The tallest Dawn redwood in the grove near the Visitor Center is now 130.4' The one in the gardens remains at 126'. The Atlas cedar has topped 100' at 100.1'. An unknown cedar (not a true cedar) is 85.2' by the Bass pond shelter.

Just past the underpass on the entrance road, the tallest hemlock remains at 144'. The white pines upslope have exploded with growth.
161.2' 150.4' 149.1' 148.5' 147.2' 144.9' 144.1' 144.0'

the former 153.5' white pine in the open along the entance road is now 157.2'

Below the dam, along the road, the walnuts are 126.2' and 120.8'. Dawn redwoods are entering the crowns. I could not locate the tops of the redwoods with leaves out.

the pine is the first known tree on the Estate to surpass 160'

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Re: Biltmore Estate Trees

Post by bbeduhn » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:35 pm

Just past where I measured the 161.2' white pine, I noticed quite a few more very tall pines. Many healthy hemlocks reside here as well. I also measured the young dawn redwood growing under the walnut trees.

White pine
161.3' 158.7' 156.2' 155.6' 154.3' 152.8' 150.8' 149.9' 149.6' 145.7' 145.1'

below the dam by the deer gate
152.6' 152.4' 150.0'

hemlock
142.1' (was 144') 135.4' 133.3' 128.8' 128.4' 128.2' 123.6' 120.7'

Dawn redwood
121.7' (very young)

Tuliptree
142.2' 136.5' 136.8' 134.9'

Baldcypress
134.1' 123.7' (both below dam, previously measured)

Carolina hemlock
112.6' 105.5' (from a different vantage point but I believe the 112' was 114.5' at some point)

The pines are growing like mad and I'm kicking myself for not noticing them before. I had kiddos with me so I didn't get as much measuring as I would have liked. 9 150's and 2 160's reside in one grove with only cursory measuring. The gate grove should have 4 150's. There could be over 20 150's on the approach road.

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