Aerial Drones

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Re: Aerial Drones

Post by Joe » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:03 am

Don wrote:I thought that the following YouTube video would be of interest...
My reaction? I was plain and simply gobsmacked!!
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I was also gobsmacked!
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Re: Aerial Drones

Post by M.W.Taylor » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:43 pm

Don wrote:I thought that the following YouTube video would be of interest...
My reaction? I was plain and simply gobsmacked!!
-Don

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2itwFJCgFQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2itwFJCgFQ

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Don,

I was so impressed with this video you posted that I just ordered a quad-copter. I doubt my copter will do that but it will be able to measure and map forests.

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Re: Aerial Drones

Post by Don » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:54 pm

Michael-
I wonder how much they charge for their algorhythms?
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Re: Aerial Drones

Post by Joe » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:27 am

Don wrote:Michael-
I wonder how much they charge for their algorhythms?
-Don
Maybe we could use drones to measure trees.
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Re: Aerial Drones

Post by Don » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:19 pm

Joe-
I think that is what Michael Taylor has in mind with the quadcopter (I seem to recall earlier attempts as well). From Michael's earlier posts, I believe that the significant issue is commericial use, which would require regulation, forms, burros, etc...
I'd think that a forest might be challenging for both the 'pilot' and the quadcopter...on the plus side, adjacent trees in a forest would damper winds that would otherwise impact stabilization...of course I'm just old-school enough to visualize the quadcopter doing a tape drop, once it had leveled off and held a steady tree's tip top in it's reticle...I'm sure Michael has more electronic tricks up his sleeve (like maybe a lightweight parabolic mirror to more accurately reflect laser distance meter signals).
Lidar, lasers...did you even dream of such a thing 20 years ago? Ain't life grand!
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Re: Aerial Drones

Post by edfrank » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:43 pm

Utah from the Air

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Re: Aerial Drones

Post by Don » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:33 pm

If, in the "Utah from the Air" drone or RC plane-based videos, the thanks to the various National and State Park's implies that they had permission to make these "overflights", my objections are mitigated some.
As an individual who has sat on such high places, or near arches such as those flown under by the drone, I can't say that I have no objections...I"d have a certain sense of wonder, but also consider such 'flights of fancy' as self-indulgent and inconsiderate of others. Much like the initial shock of a hummingbird's close passing.

Michael in the forest measuring tree heights is not a self-indulgent 'flight of fancy' but a utilitarian task, albeit an innovative one.

Such are a few issues that come to mind over future drone usages...
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Re: Aerial Drones

Post by PAwildernessadvocate » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:23 am

Joe wrote:I don't want any *&^%$ plane, however small, flying just a few hundred feet up over my house- it's enough to make me go out and buy a &^%$$# gun and shoot it down....
This is exactly what it is my hope people will start to do, in droves, once local, state, and federal agencies begin to use drones in significant numbers to spy on people's private homes and property.

It's just too bad there's no way to pull a shotgun on the CIA and NSA when they have the unmitigated gall to presume to spy on our internet activities and telephone communications, etc.
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Re: Aerial Drones

Post by Joe » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:33 am

PAwildernessadvocate wrote:
Joe wrote:I don't want any *&^%$ plane, however small, flying just a few hundred feet up over my house- it's enough to make me go out and buy a &^%$$# gun and shoot it down....
This is exactly what it is my hope people will start to do, in droves, once local, state, and federal agencies begin to use drones in significant numbers to spy on people's private homes and property.

It's just too bad there's no way to pull a shotgun on the CIA and NSA when they have the unmitigated gall to presume to spy on our internet activities and telephone communications, etc.
It may very well be the case that at THIS time, the agencies are being reasonably responsible- but who is to say they'll remain that way? Just think what Nixon would have done with such power.

Such massive power schemes seldom succeed in their legitimate goals. We had far more military power than the Viet Cong, but couldn't defeat them. All this high tech stuff is never going to solve the problem of terrorism. What would succeed is getting the hell out of the business of Middle Eastern nations.
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Re: Aerial Drones

Post by PAwildernessadvocate » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:44 am

Joe wrote:What would succeed is getting the hell out of the business of Middle Eastern nations.
But that would call for a modicum of common sense on the part of the federal government (and the militarism contractor corporations)!

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