Asheville Trees, NC

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bbeduhn
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Asheville Trees, NC

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:58 am

I wanted to post some numbers on trees I've measured recently in the Asheville, NC area.

Montford Park
Nordmann fir 68.4' 78.4' 81.1' 93.2'
Suwara false cypress 85.6' 91.2'
Northern white cedar 73.3'

Hanger Hall near downtown-unusual trees for Asheville
Longleaf pine 75.0'
Loblolly pine 78.0'

The Mountains-to-Sea Trail
Shortleaf pine 124.6' very nice grove. Will measure the remainder soon.
Pitch pine 121.7' I've listed this previously at 121'. The actual top is a bit higher but nearly
impossible to spot.

Church St., downtown
Ulmus procera? English/Atinian elm? both triple trunked but may pass the single pith test
17'2" cbh 90.4' 17'9" cbh 79.6'

Fuddruckers near downtown
Ulmus glabra? Scots/Wych elm?
13'6" cbh 90.0' 15'5" cbh 93.0'

TGIF/hotel parking lot
Shortleaf pine 115.7' The same site has a 144' sycamore and a very tall dawn redwood.

I'm cataloguing all of the tall Dawn redwoods (60'+) in the area. Will just informed me of a few more, so I'll post the numbers very soon.

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Re: Asheville Trees

Post by RyanLeClair » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:52 pm

Hey Brian,

Saw those big trees on Church Street a few weeks ago. I agree--Ulmus procera.

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Re: Asheville Trees

Post by eliahd24 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:12 pm

Nice job Brian! What was the cbh on the Pinus echinata you measured?

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Re: Asheville Trees

Post by Bart Bouricius » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:03 am

That is an impressive height for a Pitch pine, is that some sort of a record?

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Re: Asheville Trees

Post by Will Blozan » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:24 pm

Bart,

Pitch pine breaks 140' in GA..............

Will

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Re: Asheville Trees

Post by bbeduhn » Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:02 pm

The 115.7' p echinata has a cbh of 8' 5.5" I'll get a cbh on the 124.6' soon. I think it may be a bit smaller than the 115.7'. I've been trying to top 140' on pitch pine but they just aren't cooperating with me.

Here are a few more I overlooked:

Black Mountain, NC
Sequoia Giganteum 64.1' Will got a cbh. I didn't write it down, but it's growing.
Picea abies 125.1'

Asheville
Picea abies 114.0'

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Re: Asheville Trees

Post by eliahd24 » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:38 pm

Those shortleafs would be close to state champ level in Georgia... not sure about North Carolina. I feel it may be a under-documented species at any rate.

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Re: Asheville Trees

Post by edfrank » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:21 pm

Shortleaf Pine (Pinus echinata) reaches 141.2 feet at Camp Branch along the Chattooga River and 140 on Tamassee Knob in South Carolina. I also think this is an undermeasured species across much of its range. Perhaps our list needs updated, it has been awhile since Jes Riddle did the last version. the tallest Pitch Pine (Pinus rgida) is at Warwomam Road on the Catooga River in GA at 136.3 and at 135.4 at Ellicott Rock Wilderness in South Carolina.

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Re: Asheville Trees

Post by Will Blozan » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:40 am

Ed, Eli,

The Warwoman Road shortleaf is now 138.7' as of last measurement (12/29/2010) with a girth of 5'10". The neighboring pitch pine is 142.3' with a girth of 8' even. Next to this is a Virginia pine 122.3' with a girth of 5'1". The Cliff Creek drainage has very nice shortleaf:
6' X 131.5'
6'5" X 127.2'
6'6" X 128.1'

I have not broken 120' yet in the Asheville area for pitch pine. Several sites have them to 118'. Of course, with rounded tops they could be 120' I just can't see the top.

Will

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Re: Asheville Trees

Post by eliahd24 » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:42 pm

Will- those are all state level co-champions. The one I nominated to the state list from Fernbank Forest is 6'4" x 131'. There's 1 or 2 others in Fernbank within a few points as well.

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