Noxubee NWR 2018 Oct

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Larry Tucei
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Noxubee NWR 2018 Oct

Post by Larry Tucei » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:03 pm

On my continued search for Superlative Trees I returned to the NNWF in late October.
My destination was Greentree #1 where in the past I have reported on some of the tallest Loblolly Pines in all of Ms.
Loblolly Pine 143.5' 10'
Loblolly Pine 143.5' 10'
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Blowdown 2
Blowdown 2
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A small Tornado had hit the area near the Pine Grove of around 70-100 trees back in 2016 and I wanted to check the status of the grove.
Blowdown 2
Blowdown 2
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Luckily it was a glancing blow with minimal damage to the Pines however near was hundreds of Oak down just to the north and east.
Loblolly Pine 138'
Loblolly Pine 138'
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Pines for Scale
Pines for Scale
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I measured 10 Pines throughout the grove with the following measurements- 138’,141’, 10’, 143.5’, 7’ 10”, 138.5’, 10’2”, 120’, 10’5” with no taper, 143.5’, 10’8”, 141’, 8’2”,
Loblolly Pine 148.5', 9'3.5"
Loblolly Pine 148.5', 9'3.5"
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148.5’, 9’3.5”-tallest Loblolly I’ve measured, 138’, 10’5.5”.
Shortleaf Pine
Shortleaf Pine
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Largest Shortleaf I've ever measured- 138.5', 10'2". Later that afternoon I went to another area that had large Pines Beaver Dam Trail a hiking trail approximately 1 mile loop. I also measured trees there before and was looking to measure a couple of large ones.
Loblolly 141', 10' 11"
Loblolly 141', 10' 11"
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I only noted two 141’, 10’ 11”, 130’, 11’10.5” and a large Cypress on Oktoc Creek 85’ 24’- 25’ est.
Bald Cypress
Bald Cypress
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Re: Noxubee NWR 2018 Oct

Post by JHarkness » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:29 am

Great post, Larry! Those pines are wonderful, they're like the whites of the south.

They seem much larger than everything else, apart from that bald cypress, are they just faster growing than the hardwoods, or did some past disturbance cause this?

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Re: Noxubee NWR 2018 Oct

Post by Larry Tucei » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:05 am

Thanks Joshua- The Pines grow much faster than the Oaks these are just some of the tallest of the Pines in the Refuge. All of the 44,000 acre area have Pines of this size. Most of these are in the 3'+ Dia. range. The largest are 4' in Diameter and approaching 100 years in age. I edited the posting. I had to copy the photos as they were reopen and rotate them, then resubmit. For some reason they were sideways, this was the first posting I did from my I phone. I have another posting from Noxubee from Thanksgiving week coming soon and it will have an Oak that blew me away! I'll just call it the Grandfather Tree for now- Larry

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Re: Noxubee NWR 2018 Oct

Post by addy » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:02 pm

Nice photos, really like the second one. That's some of the most weathered looking bark I've seen on a cypress.

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Re: Noxubee NWR 2018 Oct

Post by Rand » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:11 pm

It really is eye opening how much faster your trees grow. A swamp white oak tree roughly the same diameter as your pines, died in my uncles woods and turned out to be 178 years old...and only 90-ish feet tall. It would be nice if the forest was left alone to progress to an old growth state.

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Re: Noxubee NWR 2018 Oct

Post by Larry Tucei » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:10 pm

Randy-
We have a long hot growing season. Yes it would be a Forest very similar to Congaree. I have a surprise on my next posting about Noxubee- I found a large Oak like the ones we mesured back in 09 at Congree, it blew away! I almost soiled myself when I found it. Going back in early Dec. I'll make it a priority to get it measured. Larry

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Re: Noxubee NWR 2018 Oct

Post by Rand » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:22 am

Larry Tucei wrote:Randy-
We have a long hot growing season. Yes it would be a Forest very similar to Congaree. I have a surprise on my next posting about Noxubee- I found a large Oak like the ones we mesured back in 09 at Congree, it blew away! I almost soiled myself when I found it. Going back in early Dec. I'll make it a priority to get it measured. Larry
Awesome. It's hard to believe it's been ten years since I made that trip.

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