Clearwater National Forest - Idaho - 2018

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Clearwater National Forest - Idaho - 2018

Post by tsharp » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:21 am

NTS:
I spent two days in July of 2018 among some trees that I last visited in July of 2014.

Powell Campground
Western Larch (Larix occidentalis)11.7' x 176.7'
Western White Pine (Pinus monticola) 10.9' x 173.3' Re-measurement
Ponderosa Pine (Pinus ponderosa var. ponderosa) 8.0' x 131.1' Re-measurement
White Fir (Abies concolor) 8.5' x 129'
Lodgepole Pine (Pinus contorta var. latifolia) 2.1' x 57.5'


Western Larch -tall tree in center

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11.7' x 176.7'

Devoto Memorial Grove'
Grand Fir (Abies grandis) 11' x 170.1' Re-measurement
Engelman Spruce (Picea engelmanii) *** x 159.7', 8.3' x 139.1' Re-measurement-both
Western Redcedar (Thuja plicata) 18' x 122.8'
Douglas-fir Psuedotsuga menzeii) 5.4' x 116.3'
Thinleaf Alder (Alnus incana spp. tenufoilia) 1.3' x 38.9'
White Fir (Abies concolor) 8.8' x ***

I neglected to get any measuremens of Pacific Yew which is found in the stand.

History of trees measured can be found at:
https://treesdb.azurewebsites.net/Brows ... 78/Details
https://treesdb.azurewebsites.net/Brows ... 76/Details

Typical scenes in the Grove

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This ragged top is also visible in the previous photo

Click on image to see its original size

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Re: Clearwater National Forest - Idaho - 2018

Post by Larry Tucei » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:53 am

Turner- Wow! Some of those measurements are off the scale. I've always wanted to visit Idaho, it's on my list of places to go. Larry

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Re: Clearwater National Forest - Idaho - 2018

Post by M.W.Taylor » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:26 pm

Those trees rival or even exceed their equivalents in the Sierra Nevada - Cascade montane forests.

I did not realize Idaho has such huge trees !

How much snow/rainfall does this area get per year ?

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Re: Clearwater National Forest - Idaho - 2018

Post by ElijahW » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:58 pm

Turner,

Those are some spectacular trees. Driving through northern Idaho and Montana this summer, I was struck by the emergent character of Western Larch. Even in young forests, they seemed to leave Western Whites and Engelman Spruce in the dust. It’s quite a contrast between that species and our eastern larch, or Tamarack, which is generally only emergent in bog forests of relatively short stature.

Thanks for sharing,

Elijah
"There is nothing in the world to equal the forest as nature made it. The finest formal forest, the most magnificent artificially grown woods, cannot compare with the grandeur of primeval woodland." Bob Marshall, Recreational Limitations to Silviculture in the Adirondacks

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Re: Clearwater National Forest - Idaho - 2018

Post by tsharp » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:51 pm

Michael:
Average precipitation at the elevation of these two locations (3400-3600) is 35-45 inches per year with one half falling as snow. As one gains elevation toward the continental divide probably it in the 60-70 inches per year range. Many peaks are in the 6-8000 range.
Apparently this type of site in Idaho and Montana are very similar to areas in the Cascades

Elijah:
As an emergent species it was a surprise to me. Also surprising was the first time i saw some mature bark, i immediately thought it was Ponderosa Pine until I looked up into the canopy.

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Re: Clearwater National Forest - Idaho - 2018

Post by MarkGraham » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:46 pm

The easternmost 200 foot plus trees in the continental United States appear to be in northern Idaho (western white pine and Rocky Mountain douglas fir).

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