Deep Creek is home to a couple of world records, including tuliptree and sourwood. We did a family hike to see a few waterfalls. Knowing the Smokies, there would likely be some tall trees. Deep Creek didn't disappoint.
The measurements are all point and click, quick measurements from the trail. Some trees may have been under measured. The pines are mostly growing in solitude, among the rhododendron. These pines appear to be in the 80-110 year range. One grove, which has less rhododendron growth, has even aged trees. It is northeast facing. I measured just the one tree but several others appeared to be fairly close in height. It appeared to be in the 65-80 year range. After returning home, I located more groves by satellite. There is plenty of potential at Deep Creek. The live hemlocks look verdant and luscious.
E white pine P. strobus (edit: I've removed the 175.6' tree. It is a bit shorter and will be in the following reply)
165.2' 50.35m 160.6' 48.95m 157.6' 48.03m 156.7' 47.76m 147.2' 44.86m
shortleaf pine P. echinata
115.7' 35.26m
Virginia pine P. virginiana
102.2' 31.15m
sycamore P. occidentalis
139.0' 42.36m
tuliptree L. tulipifera
145.0' 44.19m
E hemlock Ts. canadensis
109.0' 33.22m
Deep Creek
Re: Deep Creek
I got back to Deep Creek and measured a good deal more. The new white pine groves didn't yield too much aside from one 150'. They did yield some nice, fairly large and verdant, hemlocks, as well as some nice shortleafs. The hemlocks are the finest trio I've seen in the Smokies since the adelgid plague. The primary white pine grove that I got back to had some excellent heights but not the 170's I had hoped for. I had one pine to 175', but I have removed it. Everything on the top measurement matched up but the bottom measurement did not. It had been cold and perhaps the clinometer stuck. I got multiple measurements and there are no 170's in that grove but one came close.
Curiously, the chestnut oak outperformed white oak and several red oaks in the same spot. The reds were not even close in height.
E white pine P. strobus
163.5' 49.83m 162.3' 49.47m 157.3' 47.94m 155.6' 47.42m 150.5' 45.87m 148.7' 45.32m 148.5' 45.26m
shortleaf pine P. echinata
128.8' 39.25m 120.7' 36.79m 117.6' 35.84m 110.8' 33.77m 110.0' 33.52m
pitch pine P. rigida
112.5' 34.29m 111.0' 33.83m 109.8' 33.46m
E hemlock Ts. canadensis
133.6' 40.72m 128.0' 39.01m 125.5' 38.25m
tuliptree T. liriodendron
148.5' 45.26m
sycamore P. occidentalis (remeasure)
141.5' 43.13m
chestnut oak Q. montana
133.5' 40.69m
white oak Q. alba
121.9' 37.15m
black locust R. pseudoacacia
119.7' 36.48m
Biltmore ash F. biltmoreana
116.2' 35.41m
Virginia pine P. virginiana
93.1' 28.37m
Curiously, the chestnut oak outperformed white oak and several red oaks in the same spot. The reds were not even close in height.
E white pine P. strobus
163.5' 49.83m 162.3' 49.47m 157.3' 47.94m 155.6' 47.42m 150.5' 45.87m 148.7' 45.32m 148.5' 45.26m
shortleaf pine P. echinata
128.8' 39.25m 120.7' 36.79m 117.6' 35.84m 110.8' 33.77m 110.0' 33.52m
pitch pine P. rigida
112.5' 34.29m 111.0' 33.83m 109.8' 33.46m
E hemlock Ts. canadensis
133.6' 40.72m 128.0' 39.01m 125.5' 38.25m
tuliptree T. liriodendron
148.5' 45.26m
sycamore P. occidentalis (remeasure)
141.5' 43.13m
chestnut oak Q. montana
133.5' 40.69m
white oak Q. alba
121.9' 37.15m
black locust R. pseudoacacia
119.7' 36.48m
Biltmore ash F. biltmoreana
116.2' 35.41m
Virginia pine P. virginiana
93.1' 28.37m