Hermosa Creek Trail 2015 Part II Swampy Creek

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#1)  Hermosa Creek Trail 2015 Part II Swampy Creek

Postby Larry Tucei » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:49 pm

NTS-    On Thursday June 25 Will, Matt and I did a hike at the upslope of Swampy Creek and the down slope looking for some tall trees. The upslope had not been explored before. Matt had been on the down slope of Swampy and it warranted some further exploration.
               
                       
Upslope Swampy Creek.jpg
                       
Swampy Upslope
               
               
We started up the 200’ climb at Swampy and immediately found some tall Ponderosa and Doug Fir. Will and Matt went up an along at a faster pace than me so dropped back and measured some Ponderosa.
               
                       
Will and nice Ponderosa upslope Swampy Creek.jpg
                       
Will and the tall Ponderosa Pine
               
               
               
                       
Will and nice Ponderosa upslope Swampy Creek 2.jpg
                                       
               
But before they got to far I took a measurement and a couple of photos of a nice Ponderosa with Will standing by it on the north side of just past where water was coming out of the ground looking like some of the headwaters of Swampy. That was the tallest Ponderosa of the day at 151’ with a Dia. of 43.1”.
               
                       
Nice Ponderosa upslope Swampy Creek.jpg
                       
Nice Ponderosa 11' 8" CBH
               
               
Most of the Pines in this area were in the high 140’s with CBH of 12’ 3”, 11’ 8”.
               
                       
Upslope Swampy Creek 2.jpg
                                       
               
Will is just left of center in this photo of him headed up Swampy with the big Ponderosa's in the background. We also measured a nice Doug Fir to 153.3’ with a CBH of 11’ 5.5”. After a brief rest I caught up to the guys we headed over the ridge then back around to Hermosa Creek Trail and down into western Swampy to an area where Matt had measured some really tall Blue Spruce. Down near the end of the Valley is a beautiful small Meadow loaded with wildflowers and really tall Blue Spruce.  We measured several trees on the southwestern side of the Meadow. Heights that I wrote down were 150.5’, 11’ 11”, 153.6’, 6’ 6”, 155.1’, 9’ 2”, 159’, 9’ 2”. It was amazing to see so many tall Spruces in one small area. Will and Matt measured several others and teamed up on a 163’ tree while I went to the end of the small Valley where I could see Hermosa Creek. Well I thought I could- wrong, it was still 100’ straight down to the Creek. I then decided to make the arduous climb back up the northwest finger out to Hermosa Creek Trail which was about 500’ up the 30 degree angle through dense Oak brush. I stopped several times on the way up to catch my breath.  While on the way out I let Will and Matt know I was headed up via Walkie Talkie. About half way up the finger I spied a large Juniper on the edge of one side and since it was the second largest I had ever seen I had to measure it.
               
                       
Rocky Mountain Juniper 2.jpg
                       
Western Juniper
               
               
               
                       
Rocky Mountain Juniper 1 Upslope Northwest Swampy Creek.jpg
                                       
               
Wow glad I found it the Height was 35’, CBH-7’ 11” and Crown Spread 15’ x 18.5. From the conference we had in Durango last year I learned that a tree like this could be 500 years old. I finally reconnected with Will and Matt after my climb and we headed back to the car with great satisfaction from a good day of tree hunting and Denbroship.  Larry

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#2)  Re: Hermosa Creek Trail 2015 Part II Swampy Creek

Postby dbhguru » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:44 pm

Larry,

  Great report! Hermosa and its tributaries just keep on giving. It is an amazing region that sets the bar for virtually every Colorado species.

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#3)  Re: Hermosa Creek Trail 2015 Part II Swampy Creek

Postby Matt Markworth » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:40 pm

Larry, Will, All,

On 10/4/16 I went farther up Swampy, up a little side creek, and there was a nice Rocky Mountain Douglas fir. I think it becomes the second largest known Doug fir at Hermosa behind the huge outlier near Dutch Creek.

The measurements are 12' x 156.2'. Elevation is about 8,200'. I've seen a few Doug firs at Hermosa about this same size, but they've all been on the ground, usually across one of the main side creeks to Hermosa Creek.

               
                       
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#4)  Re: Hermosa Creek Trail 2015 Part II Swampy Creek

Postby Erik Danielsen » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:48 pm

Nice light on that last shot!
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#5)  Re: Hermosa Creek Trail 2015 Part II Swampy Creek

Postby dbhguru » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:45 pm

Matt,

   Do you have an up-to-date list of the Colorado big trees. I talked to Neal Bamesberger a couple hours ago and we're looking to hold another workshop in Colorado in 2017. It would be worthwhile to get the big tree hunters in Colorado excited about the possibilities.

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#6)  Re: Hermosa Creek Trail 2015 Part II Swampy Creek

Postby Matt Markworth » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:45 pm

Bob,

Unfortunately I don't have a comprehensive list, but it's one of those lists that I've wanted to do and has been on the mental "checklist." This spreadsheet (http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=7153) with the 2015 blue spruce finds and the great feature story you had in the AF magazine should go a long way in whetting their appetite though.

Lots more to find and a lot more stories to be told for sure.

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#7)  Re: Hermosa Creek Trail 2015 Part II Swampy Creek

Postby Matt Markworth » Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:47 pm

NTS,

In my post last November I mentioned some big Doug firs that were down at Hermosa Creek.

I dug up a photo of one of them:

               
                       
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