White Fir

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#1)  White Fir

Postby dbhguru » Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:56 pm

Hi All,

  Mark Rouw discovered a big white fir near the bottom of Wolf Creek Pass 15 years ago. He revisited the tree on this years WNTS rendezvous and confirmed that it had grown. He gave me directions to it. So on leaving Durango, Monica and I stopped at the foot of the pass and went up the Windy Pass Trail 0.72 miles and there it was. Here are two images.

               
                       
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   So how big is it? Well I got 13.9 feet around and 142.0 feet in height. So Mark has the NTS height record for the white fir. So far our Colorado list of tall species is as follows. This is off the top of my head.

Species                  Height                   Girth      Measurer

Doug fir                  163+                    17.0         Mark Rouw
Ponderosa P.           160.3                    9.3          Bob Leverett
Colorado Blue          160.2                   8.6           Bob Leverett
Englemann S.           142.5                   10+          Bob Leverett
White fir                  142.0                   13.9        Mark Rouw
S.W. white pine        127.0                    6.3         Bob Leverett
Narrowleaf CW         114.0                                  Bob Leverett

   Mark also has the record for the subalpine fir and quaking aspen. I need to get the figures from him on them. But as you can see, the Colorado tall tree list is starting to get pretty darned impressive.

Bob
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#2)  Re: White Fir

Postby Don » Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:46 pm

Bob-
I can't think of anyone with a better 'top of your head' than you!  Impressive recall!  Hints of what's to come in WNTS 2014...
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#3)  Re: White Fir

Postby Matt Markworth » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:14 pm

All,

I've conversed with Bob and Mark about this tree, and also just wanted to share the info here.

I'm happy to report that this tree is doing well. There are two dead branches at the top that are very, very close in height so we probably won't see much height growth in the coming years unless one of the other leaders shoots up. It was especially nice to see the tree with aspens changing colors nearby.

Here are my measurements, which are very close to Mark's and Bob's measurements in the past:
Girth: 163.5"
Height: 144.3'
Spread: 30' (getting spread was tricky because of the other two white firs that are so close to the tree)

               
                       
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#4)  Re: White Fir

Postby dbhguru » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:51 pm

Matt,

  This fir is so much larger than any that were recognized by the old growth inventory specialists of the San Juan NF. I remember it well. And, of course, the super tall white fir in Hermosa far surpasses anything we had measured height-wise. These are fabulous trees and change our understanding of Colorado's superlatives.

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#5)  Re: White Fir

Postby Matt Markworth » Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:17 pm

Bob,

I'm really glad I visited this tree because I hadn't seen such a dominant white fir forest before. I checked on another one for Neal that would have been in a similar class, but it had been cut down (looked like it was right on the edge of private property). It's circumference was about 16' at about one foot from ground level.

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#6)  Re: White Fir

Postby dbhguru » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:24 pm

Matt,

  Yes, it would have been a big one. When I first made contact with folks in the San Juan NF, the perception of the white fir was a slender tree probably not surpassing 100 feet. We've come a long way.

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