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Redwood Stumps

Post by Mark Collins » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:24 pm


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Here's something a little different. A couple years ago, a buddy of mine was passing through Northern California and told me he wanted see some big stumps. I thought it was kind of odd at the time, but the idea stuck with me. Lately I've been looking around in some of the logged sections of Redwood National Park for a different redwood experience.

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For those of us who love this forest, walking through the logged parts can be a tough pill to swallow. There are some pretty wild things to see back there though, in particular the bizarre fairy rings and mutations. Above is a small example. I guess the forest has it's fair share of challenges in the coming years. I would love to see what it looks like 500 years from now...

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Re: Redwood Stumps

Post by mdvaden » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:18 am

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Re: Redwood Stumps

Post by John Harvey » Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:50 am

Mark,
Ive had a similar interest in big snags. There is one in Atlas grove and one on the Rockefeller forest loop as well that was easily the largest tree in the grove I think. It kind of gives a sense of history. The photo is a horrible shot but that's the snag. A similar experience can be found in the Giant Sequoias with the Muir snag or old Adam. Trees that were far larger and maybe older than what stands today.
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Re: Redwood Stumps

Post by Mark Collins » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:45 am

John,

Any idea how old you think some of those snags could be? I had a moment recently walking along the Drury Parkway, where the road passed a particularly ancient looking patch with one of those old snags. It was so strange to be walking on this smooth, modern road, and then to have a snag within arms reach that could have been 3,000 years old, spared only because it was a few feet away from where the road was to be built.

As far as the stumps go, it was interesting how the smaller new trees are already beginning to conceal the true size of many of the stumps, at least in RNP. Mario's photo may be an exception, of course it could all depend on the location. The forest floor seems to rebounding fairly well, with lots of ferns, sorrel, mosses. The exception would probably be fresh falls from branches, limbs, and old redwood titans.

Anyhow, it's a neat experience if anyone is looking to "spice up" their wanderings....

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Post by yinghai » Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:05 pm

Thanks for sharing, Mark. It definitely spiced things up. Hahah. The last stump is enormous. Have you been to Fieldbrook can tried to find the stump of Fieldbrook tree?
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Re: Redwood Stumps

Post by Mark Collins » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:36 pm

Yinghai,

The Fieldbrook Stump was brought up in this thread last year: http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=6077

Would have loved to have seen that tree...

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Re: Redwood Stumps

Post by yinghai » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:56 pm

Thanks, Mark. I found a fairly recent photo of it online. It's kind of hard to recognize.

http://ruskinkhartley.com/2013/06/30/wh ... stump-074/
Mark Collins wrote:Yinghai,

The Fieldbrook Stump was brought up in this thread last year: http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=6077

Would have loved to have seen that tree...
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Re: Redwood Stumps

Post by John Harvey » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:13 am

Nothing gets me nostalgic like thinking about the trees that once were....I don't really know what the snags ages could be. I suppose its much like the live trees as in the altitude, the abundance of water ect that led to the size of these trees. Obviously Atlas Grove and Rockefeller forest would be considered prime locations so if they are larger than the trees around them and have been dead for a couple hundred years...they could be older than anything in the groves. I've seen these same snags in second growth forests so I imagine they were also snags when the logging took place and left for obvious reasons. There are a couple examples of how quickly a Redwood deteriorates after death. The two most obvious ones are Dyerville Giant and the tree in Big Basin near the amphitheater. One fell in 1982 and the other in 1992. The only problem is these trees have seen a ton of human traffic all over them so I'm sure that's sped the wear and tear up. Anyway I'm rambling...
The Burnt Monarch in Sequoia NP is one Id like to see. Undoubtedly larger than Sherman in its day and although there's no way to say, probably gave Cranell Creek Giant and Lindsey Creek tree a run for the title of worlds largest tree long ago. (Assuming larger coast redwoods weren't cut that trumped even these).

The ten trees Id like to see if I could go back in time are....

1. Lindsey Creek Tree
2. The Mineral Tree in its prime (Douglas Fir) 400ft tall?
3. The Emperors Oak at Travnik Bosnia 51CBH.
4. The Fieldbrook redwood
5. Cranell Creek redwood
6. The Burnt Monarch (Old Adam) Giant Sequoia
7. The Senator
8. The Damory Oak in Blanford England with a 68ft circumference.
9. The Cowthorp oak in England 60ft CBH.
10. The Mingo Oak WV
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Re: Redwood Stumps

Post by sradivoy » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:31 am

yinghai wrote:Thanks, Mark. I found a fairly recent photo of it online. It's kind of hard to recognize.

http://ruskinkhartley.com/2013/06/30/wh ... stump-074/
Mark Collins wrote:Yinghai,

The Fieldbrook Stump was brought up in this thread last year: http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=6077

Would have loved to have seen that tree...
Is the Fieldbrook stump the remenant of the legendary Lindsey Creek redwood by any chance? Monumentaltrees mentions it as being located in that area.
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Re: Redwood Stumps

Post by mdvaden » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:45 am

JohnnyDJersey wrote:
The ten trees Id like to see if I could go back in time are....

1. Lindsey Creek Tree
2. The Mineral Tree in its prime (Douglas Fir) 400ft tall?
3. The Emperors Oak at Travnik Bosnia 51CBH.
4. The Fieldbrook redwood
5. Cranell Creek redwood
6. The Burnt Monarch (Old Adam) Giant Sequoia
7. The Senator
8. The Damory Oak in Blanford England with a 68ft circumference.
9. The Cowthorp oak in England 60ft CBH.
10. The Mingo Oak WV
If in theory we could go back in time, its a 50/50 chance those are the trees I would be looking for. Most likely I would search for others that are bigger or more impressive to my liking. If we could go back in time, there would be more available than just the few listed.

I would probably continue exploring for what others had not noticed yet.
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