Tree Maximums - Tree of the Week: Tuliptree

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Re: Tree Maximums - Tree of the Week: Tuliptree

Post by Matt Markworth » Sat May 04, 2013 12:50 pm

Dan,

Thanks for the report on the Wasilik Poplar. While it's a shame that it's dead, it's very gratifying when we can have multiple reports on a tree over a long period of time, which adds to the story of that tree and species.

Josh,

Thanks again for spotting that erroneous CBH. Accuracy is my mission and getting it vetted by others is the best way to ensure that. Also, congratulations on being part of the measuring crew for this amazing tree. I imagine it was a rush, it's not every day that you get to crown a new Eastern height champ!

Will,

Thanks for the info, I'll enter the tree into the Tree of the Week Maximums List. Also, to better clarify the dimensions of the surrounding trees, I'll add some detail to the Habitat field:

Located within a steep, rich forest cove. H Irwin, I Breckheimer and J Kelly worked on a .5 acre circular plot of the woody stems surrounding the target tree. The exceptional growing potential of the site is further demonstrated by the results of the plot. Including the target tree, there are 9 Tuliptrees in the plot, all over 31” DBH. Two of the Tuliptrees adjacent to the target tree are over 170’ tall. DBH and Height of these 9 Tuliptrees are as follows: (67.8", 191.9')(55.5", 149.1')(54", N/A)(49.15", 172.7')(48.2", 172')(47.8", 167.5')(42.8", N/A)(41.7", 157.4')(31.7", N/A).

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Re: Tree Maximums - Tree of the Week: Tuliptree

Post by bbeduhn » Mon May 06, 2013 1:55 pm

Ranger Dan,
The Wasilik Trail had been closed in 2011. I didn't expect them to reopen it but it appears that it is open now. It may have been closed only temporarily after the tree sustained heavy damage and then reopened. I found a link to the Macon County news reporting that the trail was closed, the area was dangerous and for hikers to stay out.
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Re: Tree Maximums - Tree of the Week: Tuliptree

Post by Matt Markworth » Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:07 pm

Hi All,

Tree of the Week: Liriodendron tulipifera

“Another day in the mid-nineties with no rain in sight. Did Kermit the frog say, "It's not easy being green?" The same goes for trees. Although Maryland springtimes promote a exuberance of new growth, our summers are often cruel, seemingly bent on reclaiming what has been produced.

Of course, there are a few deep coves where the sun hardly penetrates, the drying winds are broken, and the multiple canopies conserve the moist fragrant air, and fresh green moss hangs in strips from old logs. The trunks of tuliptrees rise straight from these havens, their tops vertical, supported by strong fibers and non-compressible water.” Colby Rucker, 8/14/2002, http://www.nativetreesociety.org/corner/tuliptrees.htm

Excerpt from Jess's Maxlist:
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Will's post on the Rucker Tuliptree . . .
We also remeasured the height record tuliptree which grows along the trail and has indeed grown about 9 inches since last year, In fact, all the tuliptrees I saw had excellent growth elongation this past year- a relief as I had begun to think they would cease height growth. The tall tree now stands at 178.2’, up from 177.4’ as measured last year. Incidentally, the accuracy of the ENTS Method continues to impress me, with two widely different angles and distances yielding 178.2’ and 178.3’ respectively.
Rucker Tuliptree.jpg
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... _creek.htm
Bob Van Pelt's preliminary report on the Sag Branch Tuliptree volume measurement, please let me know if numbers have been updated . . .

http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... _tulip.htm


Will's post on the Tulip at Big Creek . . .
Two of the trees were only 8.8 feet apart, and all three reached over 172' tall. The tallest, a still-ascending tree only 8'4" in girth, stands at 177.2' tall, with a current year's leader of 7-8 inches

http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... update.htm
Will's post with his measurement in 2008 of the tall tree at Bradley Fork that Jess found . . .
The tree was far larger than I thought. It truly dominates the small, incised drainage where it grows. I went upslope to get a sighting on the top while Dave set up a pole at the base to get a target above the basal clutter. I found a blowdown with a full view of the broad top. The southwest side was clearly taller and I isolated the highest tip out of 6-7 tops. I shot the top, the basal target and cross-checked my angles and distances multiple times. I settled on the most consistent, repeated readings and then went to the base to measure the midslope point and the basal target. All said and done the height of this 52.7" diameter tree came out to 181.9 feet.
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tulip02.jpg
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... iptree.htm
Tree of the Week Guidelines: http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=393&t=5221

Tree of the Week Forum: http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewforum.php?f=393

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Re: Tree Maximums - Tree of the Week: Tuliptree

Post by Matt Markworth » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:58 pm

All,

Here's the summary that Ed put together a few years ago. It does a really nice job of bringing together the information on the Sag Branch Tulip that had been documented up to that point . . .

http://www.nativetreesociety.org/projec ... onproj.htm

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Post by Matt Markworth » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:25 pm

All,

Here is Will's post on some of the massive Tuliptrees including the Greenbrier Giant . . .

http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f ... t=10#p4166

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Post by Matt Markworth » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:32 am

The Greenbrier Giant and other big Tulips . . .

Will or others, What are the heights and spread numbers for some of these beasts? Also, what are the numbers for the Mill Creek Monster including girth?

Also, I believe in very vague location information, as I imagine these trees could garner a lot of attention.
The Greenbriar Giant tuliptree, on Kalanu Prong in the Smokies
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http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... kies01.htm
Mill Creek- Will Blozan beside the Mill Creek Monster, possibly the most voluminous tuliptree. Photo submitted by Michael Davie.
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http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... kies02.htm
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Re: Tree Maximums - Tree of the Week: Tuliptree

Post by pdbrandt » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:28 pm

Here is a brain dump of the tallest tuliptrees chronicled by ENTS members:

191 ft tall, 17.75 inches CBH, Fork ridge TP (aka Deep Creek water shed) located on may 26 2010 (http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?t=804), revisited by Josh Kelly July 2010 (q) and climbed and detailed Apr 2011 (http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=256&t=2423). Fork ridge spruce trip report http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=2629

Josh Kelly found the 179 ft santeetlah tp in Wright creek area on may 6 2010 (http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f ... 2132#p2132) previous trip to Wright creek described at http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... poplar.htm

Bradley fork TP 181 feet tall discovered 2007 by Jess Riddle
Will's founding post 2008 http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... iptree.htm
climbed Dec 2008 will's post: http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... limbed.htm
James partons post: http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... imbed1.htm

Welch branch TPs 180 footers posted April 2011 - http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=2320

Sag branch Tulip poplar 167 feet tall, 22 foot CBH, 4013 cubic feet in volume. Fork ridge TP 191 feet tall, 17.7 CBH, and 2844 ft cubed.

Wesser creek http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=572

Big Creek http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=1582
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... ecreek.htm

Baxter creek and Jim branch finds http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... _creek.htm, http://www.nativetreesociety.org/bigtre ... e_list.htm, http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldt ... _creek.htm

Elkmont, TN with 184ft TP http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=3663 found Feb 2012

East Barker creek south of Cherokee in Nantahala National Forest. Many 180+ TPs highest 184.5. http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f ... 6890#p6890
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Re: Tree Maximums - Tree of the Week: Tuliptree

Post by Matt Markworth » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:59 pm

pdbrandt wrote:Here is a brain dump of the tallest tuliptrees chronicled by ENTS members
Cool, thanks! I'll check them all out, and see where they fit into the list.

When thinking of which species ENTS have greatly expanded the body of knowledge of, Tuliptree has to be right up there in the top few.

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Re: Tree Maximums - Tree of the Week: Tuliptree

Post by pdbrandt » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:03 am

Hi Matt,

I echo what others have said-Thank you for all the work you do on the forum and especially in the Tree of the Week program and your amazing max list. I am particularly passionate about tuliptrees as you can probably tell and I'm planning to compile a list of all known tuliptrees that are either taller than 175 feet or that have a CBH greater than 20 feet. I'll share a first draft here shortly since I'm sure there will be some I will miss.
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Re: Tree Maximums - Tree of the Week: Tuliptree

Post by Larry Tucei » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:52 am

Species (Scientific): Liriodendron tulipifera
Species (Common): Tulip Poplar
Form (Forest, Open, or Intermediate): Forest
Height: 132’
CBH: 10’ 10”
Maximum Spread: 45’ x 36’
Average Spread: 40.5’
Volume: NA
Site: Noxubee National Wildlife Refuge
Subsite: Noxubee River
Country: US
State or Province: MS
Property Owner: US Government
Date of Measurement: Dec 2010
Measurer(s): Larry Tucei
Method of Height Measurement: Sine
Tree Name:
Habitat: Floodplain Near River
Matt- This is the tallest Tulip tree that I have found thus far in my State.

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