Western States Rucker Comparisons

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Re: Western States Rucker Comparisons

Post by MarkGraham » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:33 pm

There are 310 foot coast redwoods in Oregon. I have not measured but sure they have been measured.

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Re: Western States Rucker Comparisons

Post by bbeduhn » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:51 am

Mark,
I'm just going by published numbers. I'm sure there are plenty more numbers out there. If you have any or know of any, by all means let me know. The more info on a location, the better, but I know exact locations on exceptional redwoods are secret.

As far as I can tell, the RMDFs in Idaho are the easternmost 200 footers currently. Only the Boogerman white pine has topped 200 feet in the East, and nothing else is close as of now, with tulip hitting 192'.
Brian

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Re: Western States Rucker Comparisons

Post by MarkGraham » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:25 pm

Brian

There are some details under the Oregon section of this BBS.

Oregon has 300 foot redwood trees as well as redwood trees over 20,000 cubic feet trunk volume.

Although specific locations would not be published , the general area would be Chetco River valley - Siskiyou National Forest.

I don't know the tallest measured height, but the tallest LiDAR indicated height is 305 feet.

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Re: Western States Rucker Comparisons

Post by bbeduhn » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:38 am

Mark,

Thanks. It looks like I missed a couple of significant trees. I found a 298' coast and a 212' giant listed. I didn't see the 310' coast.

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Re: Western States Rucker Comparisons

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:36 am

...and, the gaudiest
California

State Rucker
RHI 3 = 337.80' 102.96m
RHI 5 = 319.72' 97.45m
RHI 8 = 301.75' 91.97m
RHI 10 = 292.35' 89.10m
RHI 15 = 266.25' 81.15m
RHI 20 = 240.38' 73.26m
RHI 30 = 200.21' 61.02m

1. coast redwood S. sempervirens 380.3' 115.91m Redwoods NP Taylor, Atkins
2. sitka spruce P. sitchensis 317.2' 96.7m Chris Atkins, Michael Taylor
3. giant sequoia S. giganteum 315.9' 96.28m Sequoia NP Blozan
4. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 310.7' 94.70m Redwoods NP Taylor, Vaden, Atkins, Hanusckik
5. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 274.5' 83.66m Tahoe NF Taylor
6. sugar pine P. lambertiana 273.7' 83.45m Yosemite Taylor
7. W hemlock Ts. heterophylla 273.4' 83.33m Prairie Creek SP Vaden
8. Lawson cypress Ch. lawsoniana 268.3' 81.08m Steve Sillett
9. white fir A. concolor 257.5' Western Sierra Nevadas Taylor, Kennedy
10. red fir A. magnifica 252.0’ 76.81m Van Pelt

11. blue gum E. globulous 246.2' 75.04m Santa Cruz Co. Moore
12. weeping W hemlock Ts. heterophylla pendula 235.0' 71.62m Prairie Creek SP Vaden
13. incense cedar C. decurrens 217.7' 66.35m Kings Canyon NP
14. Jeffrey's pine P. jeffreyi "Eureka Valley Giant" 191.9' 58.5m
15. bay laurel U. californica 179.5' 54.71m Hendy Woods Moore
16. California sycamore P. racemosa 178.6' 54.43m Santa Cruz Co Moore
17. tanoak N. densiflora 166.9' 50.87m Santa Cruz Co Moore
18. bigleaf maple A. macrophyllum 162.0' 49.37m Humboldt Redwoods Vaden
19. valley oak Q. lobata 153.0' 46.63m Taylor
20. lodgepole pine P. contorta 150.5' 45.87m Riddle

21. Washoe pine P. washoensis 145.0' 44.19m Taylor, Kennedy
22. mountain-ash E. regnans 128.6' 39.19m
23. torrey pine P. torreyana 126.0' 38.40m
24. tuliptree L. tulipifera 125.3' 38.20m
24. bunya pine A. bidwilli 125.3' 38.20m
26. Murray's lodgepole pine P. contorta murrayana 115.0' 35.05m
27. Norfolk Island pine A. heterophylla 114.8' 34.99m
28. Atlas cedar C. atlantica 107.6' 32.79m
29. Monterey cypress C. macrocarpa 106.3' 32.40m
30. pecan C. illinoisensis 105.0' 32.00m


Sierra Nevada Range

Tahoe NF, Cherokee Creek
Measurers: Michael Taylor, Duncan Kennedy

1. sugar pine P. lambertiana "Thorn" 250.0' 76.2m
2. red fir A. magnifica 229.6' 70.0m

Tahoe NF
Measurer: Michael Taylor
RHI 3 = 257.30' 78.42m

1. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 260.4' 79.37m
2. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 255.9' 77.99m
3. sugar pine P. lambertiana 255.6' 77.9m
3a. sugar pine P. lambertiana 246.9' 75.25m

Tahoe NF, Bucks Lake
Measurer: Jess Riddle
RHI 3 = 179.30' 54.65m

1. red fir A. magnifica 213.8' 65.16m
2. white fir A. concolor 173.6' 52.91m
3. lodgepole pine P. contorta 150.5' 45.87m

Tahoe NF, Donner Pass
Measurer: Elijah Whitcomb
1. red fir A. magnifica 132.0' 40.23m
2. lodgepole pine P. contorta murrayana 115.0' 35.05m

Babbitt Peak
Measurers: Michael Taylor, Duncan Kennedy
1. Washoe pine P. washoensis 145.0' 44.19m

Tahoe NF, unknown location
Measurers: Michael Taylor, Duncan Kennedy
1. sugar pine P. lambertiana 273.7' 83.42m
2. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 274.5' 83.66m
3. white fir A. concolor 257.5' 78.48m

Tahoe NF composite
RHI 3 = 268.56' 81.86m
RHI 5 = 255.08' 77.74m
RHI 8 = 210.73' 64.23m

1. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 274.5' 83.66m Taylor
2. sugar pine P. lambertiana 273.7' 83.42m Taylor
3. white fir A. concolor 257.5' 78.48m Taylor, Kennedy
4. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 255.9' 77.99m Taylor
5. red fir A. magnifica 213.8' 65.16m Riddle
6. lodgepole pine P. contorta 150.5' 45.87m Riddle
7. Washoe pine P. washoensis 145.0' 44.19m Taylor, Kennedy
8. Murray's lodgepole pine P. contorta murrayana 115.0' 35.05m Whitcomb


Eldorado NF
Measurer: Duncan Kennedy
RHI 3 = 193.70' 59.03m

1. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 235.0' 71.62m
2. sugar pine P. lambertiana 215.0' 65.53m
3. lodgepole pine P. contorta 131.1' 39.96m


Stanislaus NF, Mokelumne Wilderness
Measurers: Michael Taylor, John Montague
1. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 176.0' 53.64m


Sequoia NF
Measurer: Michael Taylor
1. giant sequoia S. giganteum 314.3' 95.80m

Sequoia NF Nelder Grove
Measurer: Giant Trees Foundation
1. giant sequoia S. giganteum 254.6' 77.60m


Mountain Home Demonstration Forest, Balch Park
Measurer: Marc Meyer
1. giant sequoia S. giganteum 282.8' 86.20m


Sierra Nevada, westside
Measurers: Michael Taylor, John Montague, Duncan Kennedy
RHI 3 = 234.53' 71.48m

1. sugar pinr P. lambertiana 263.6' 80.34m
2. white fir A. concolor 230.0' 70.10m
3. incense cedar C. decurrens 210.0' 64.00m


Sequoia NP
Measurer: Bob Van Pelt, Will Blozan, Wim Brinkerink
RHI 3 = 256.96' 78.32m

1. giant sequoia sequoiadendron giganteum 315.9' 96.28m Van Pelt, Blozan
2. White fir A. Concolor 250.0' 76.20m Blozan
3. sugar pine P. lambertiana 205.0' 62.50m Brinkerink


Yosemite NP
Measurers: Michael Taylor, Wim Brinkerink
RHI 3 = 260.73' 79.47m

1. sugar pine P. lambertiana 273.7' 83.45m Taylor
2. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 273.0' 83.21m Taylor
3. giant sequoia S. giganteum 235.5' 71.80m Brinkerink


Kings Canyon NP
Measurers: Michael Taylor, Will Blozan
1. giant sequoia S. giganteum 311.3' 94.9m M. Taylor
2. incense cedar Calocedrus decurrens 217.7' 66.35m


National Parks composite
RHI 3 = 285.96' 87.16m
RHI 5 = 265.11' 80.80m

1. giant sequoia S. giganteum 315.9' 96.28m Sequoia Blozan
2. sugar pine P. lambertiana 273.7' 83.45m Yosemite Taylor
3. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 273.0' 83.21m Yosemite Taylor
4. White fir. A. Concolor 250.0' 76.20m Sequoia Blozan
5. incense cedar C. decurrens 217.7' 66.35m Kings Blozan


Calaveras Big Tree SP
Measurer: Zane Moore, Carl Casey
1. giant sequoia Sequoiadendron giganteum 295.2' 89.97m
2. sugar pine P. lambertiana 240.81' 73.4m


Sierra County, Goodyear's Bar
Measurer: Duncan Kennedy
1. sugar pine P. lambertiana "Grandfather Giant" 203.3' 61.99m


Sierra Nevada composite
RHI 3 = 288.03' 87.79m
RHI 5 = 278.91' 85.01m
RHI 8 = 251.84' 76.76m
RHI 10 = 227.47' 69.33m

1. giant sequoia S. giganteum 315.9' 96.28m Sequoia NP Blozan
2. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 274.5' 83.66m Yosemite Taylor
3. sugar pine P. lambertiana 273.7' 83.45m Yosemite Taylor
4. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 273.0' 83.21m Yosemite NP Taylor
5. white fir A. concolor 257.5' 78.48m Tahoe NF Taylor, Kennedy
6. red fir A. magnifica 252.0' 76.81m Sequioa NP Van Pelt
7. incense cedar C. decurrens 217.7' 66.35m Kings Canyon NP
8. lodgepole pine P. contorta 150.5' 45.87m Tahoe NF Riddle
9. Washoe pine P. washoensis 145.0' 44.19m Tahoe NF Taylor, Kennedy
10. Murray's lodgepole pine P. contorta murrayana 115.0' 35.05m Tahoe NF Whitcomb


Cascade Range

Shasta-Trinity NF, Mokelumne Wilderness
Measurers: Michael Taylor, John Montague
1. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 260.5' 79.40m
2. sugar pine P. lambertiana 198.0' 60.35m


Coastal Range

Northern California

Crescent City
Measurer: Mario Vaden
1. W hemlock Ts. heterophylla 271.6' 82.80m


Jedediah Smith Redwoods State Park
1. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Howland Hill Giant" 330.0' 100.58m
1a. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Stout Tree" 324.8' 99.0m John Harvey
1b.coast redwood S. sempervirens "El Viejo Del Norte" 323.8' 98.69m
1c. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Lost Monarch" 320.0' 97.53m
1d. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Del Norte Titan" 307.0' 93.57m
2. Lawson cypress Ch. lawsoniana 268.3' 81.08m Steve Sillett


Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park (I'm including the hemlock variation as it is accepted in the E hemlock)
Measurers: Mario Vaden, Chris Atkins, Michael Taylor, Bob Van Pelt
RHI 3 = 296.86' 90.48m

1. sitka spruce P. sitchensis 317.2' 96.7m Chris Atkins, Michael Taylor
1a. sitka spruce P. sitchensis 316.2' 96.4m Chris Atkins, Michael Taylor
2. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Illuvator" 300.0 91.44m
3. W hemlock Ts. heterophylla "Tsunami" 273.4' 83.33m Mario Vaden
3a. W hemlock Ts. heterophylla 258.8' 78.9m Bob Van Pelt
4. W weeping hemlock Ts. heterophylla pendula 235.0' 71.62m Mario Vaden


Redwood NP
Measurers: many
1. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Hyperion" 380.3' 115.91m M. Taylor, C. Atkins
1a. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Helios" 377.1' 114.9m M. Taylor, C. Atkins
1b. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Nugget" 373.5' 113.84m P. Zahl
1c. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Icarus" 371.2' 113.14m
1d. coast redwood S. sempervirens 354.4' 108.02m M. Taylor, J. Montague
1e. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Melkor" 348.8' 106.31m
2. Doug-fir Ps. menziessii 310.7' 94.70m M. Taylor, M. Vaden, C. Atkins, M. Hanusckik
2a. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 280.0' 85.34m M. Taylor


Humboldt Redwoods State Park
1. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Stratosphere Giant" 373.0' 113.69m C. Atkins
1a. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Lauralyn" 370.8' 113.02m A. Strangenberg, P. Zinke, M, Taylor
1b. coast redwood S. sempervirens "Rockefeller Tree" 366.6' 111.74m M. Taylor
2. bigleaf maple A. macrophylla "Humboldt Honey" 162.0' 49.37m M. Vaden


Eel River
Measurers: Michael Taylor, John Montague
1. coast redwood S. sempervirens 353.4' 107.71m


Mendocino County/Jackson SF
Measurer: Michael Taylor
1. coast redwood S. sempervirens 353.1' 107.62m
1a. coast redwood S. sempervirens 340.0' 103.63m


Covelo
Measurer: Michael Taylor
1. valley oak Q. lobata 153.0' 46.63m

Hendy Woods
Measurer: Zane Moore
1. bay laurel U. californica 179.5' 54.71m


San Francisco Bay Area

Muir Woods
Measurer: John Harvey
1. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 237.0' 72.23m


Bay Area Eucalyptus Trees
1. blue gum E. globulous 243.0' 74.06m Contra Costa Co Z. Moore
1a. blue gum E. globulous 235.0' 71.62m Bay Area J. Harvey
1b. blue gum E. globulous 213.0' 64.92m Stern Grove, SF J. Harvey
1c. blue gum E. globulous 153.0' 46.63m Lions Wayside Pk, Pleasanton J. Harvey
1d. blue gum E. globulous 152.0' 46.33m Sequoia High, Redwood City J. Harvey
1e. blue gum E. globulous 147.0' 44.80m Pleasanton Morgan


Panhandle Park, San Francisco
Measurer: Wim Brinkerink
1. Monterey cypress C. macrocarpa 106.3' 32.40m
2. black walnut J. nigra 85.9' 26.20m


Merced Lake
Measurer: Bob Van Pelt
1. white fir A. concolor "Merced Lake Giant" 216.8' 66.10m


Eureka Valley
Measurer: Bob Van Pelt
Jeffrey's pine P. jeffreyi "Eureka Valley Giant" 191.9' 58.5m


unknown location
Measurer: Bob Van Pelt
Jeffrey's pine P. jeffreyi "Smoky Jack" 186.0' 56.7m


Redwood Canyon, Oakland area
Measurers: Will Blozan, Steve Sillett, Bob Van Pelt
1. sugar pine P. lamebertiana 244.1' 74.40m


Monterey Bay Area

Big Basin
Measurers: John Harvey, Michael Taylor, Zane Moore
RHI 3 = 246.83' 75.23m

1. coast redwood S. sempervirens 327.4' 99.79m Taylor, Moore
2. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 255.0' 77.72m Harvey
3. tanoak N. densifloris 158.1' 48.18m Moore


Henry Cowell Redwoods State Park
Measurers: Zane Moore, John Harvey
RHI 3 = 224.80' 68.52m

1. coast redwood S. sempervirens "The Giant" 267.0' 81.38m Harvey
2. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 238.0' 72.54m Harvey
3. bay laurel U. californica 169.4' 51.63m Moore


Roaring Camp
Measurer: Zane Moore
bay laurel U. californica 165.3' 50.38m


Forest of Nicene Marks State Park
Measurer: Zane Moore
1. tanoak N. densifloris 162.0' 49.37m
2. Pacific madrone A. menziesii 135.4' 41.27m


Santa Cruz County hardwoods
RHI 3 = 208.26' 63.48m
RHI 5 = 190.34' 58.01m

1. blue gum E. globulous 246.2' 75.04m Z. Moore
1a. blue gum E. globulous 241.2' 73.51m Z. Moore
1b. blue gum E. globulous 240.0' 73.15m Z. Moore
2. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 200.0' 60.96m J. Harvey/Z. Moore
3. California sycamore P. racemosa 178.6' 54.43m Z. Moore
4. tanoak N. densiflora 166.9' 50.87m Z. Moore
4a. tanoak N. densiflora 160.4' 48.89m Z. Moore
5. bay laurel U. californica 160.0' 48.76m Z. Moore


Monterey Bay Area composite
RHI 3= 253.66' 7.31m
RHI 5 = 219.45' 66.89m

1. coast redwood S. sempervirens 327.4' 99.79m
2. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 255.0' 77.72m
3. California sycamore P. racemosa 178.6' 54.43m
4. bay laurel U. californica 169.4' 51.63m
5. tanoak N. densiflora 166.9' 50.87m
6. Pacific madrone A. menziesii 135.4' 41.27m


Little Sur
Measurer: Zane Moore
1. tanoak N. densiflora 163.8' 49.92m


Big Sur
Measurer: Zane Moore
1. coast redwood S. sempervirens 296.7' 93.0m
2. tanoak N. densiflora 163.9' 49.95m


San Bernadino
Measurer: Ryan LeClair
1. lodgepole pine P. contorta 117.6' 35.84m


Coastal Range composite
RHI 3 = 336.06' 102.43m
RHI 5 = 309.98' 94.48m
RHI 8 = 284.40' 86.68m
RHI 10 = 264.66' 80.66m

1. coast redwood S. sempervirens 380.3' 115.91m Redwoods NP Taylor, Atkins
2. sitka spruce P. sitchensis 317.2' 96.7m Chris Atkins, Michael Taylor
3. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 310.7' 94.70m Redwoods NP Taylor, Vaden, Atkins, Hanusckik
4. W hemlock Ts. heterophylla 273.4' 83.33m Prairie Creek SP Vaden
5. Lawson cypress Ch. lawsoniana 268.3' 81.08m Steve Sillett
6. blue gum E. globulous 246.2' 75.04m Santa Cruz Co. Moore
7. sugar pine P. lambertiana 244.1' 74.40m Redwood Canyon Blozan, Silliett, Van Pelt
8. weeping W hemlock Ts. heterophylla pendula 235.0' 71.62m Prairie Creek SP Vaden
9. Jeffrey's pine P. jeffreyi "Eureka Valley Giant" 191.9' 58.5m
10.bay laurel U. californica 179.5' 54.71m Hendy Woods Moore

11. California sycamore P. racemosa 178.6' 54.43m Santa Cruz Co Moore
12. tanoak N. densiflora 166.9' 50.87m Santa Cruz Co Moore
13. bigleaf maple A. macrophyllum 162.0' 49.37m Humboldt Redwoods Vaden


White Mountains
Measurer: Giant Trees Foundation
bristlecone pine P. longaeva "Patriarch" 53.8' 16.4m



Conifers.org list of tallest redwoods (diameter and height)
Hyperion Redwood National Park 4.84m 380.1' 115.85m
Helios Redwood National Park 4.96m 375.9' 114.58m
Icarus Redwood National Park 3.78m 371.2' 113.14m
Stratosphere Giant Humboldt Redwoods State Park 5.18m 370.9' 113.05m
National Geographic Redwood National Park 4.39m 369.8' 112.71m
Orion Redwood National Park 4.33m 369.52' 112.63m
Federation Giant Humboldt Redwoods State Park 4.54m 369.5' 112.62m
Paradox Humboldt Redwoods State Park 3.90m 369.1' 112.51m
Mendocino Montgomery Woods State Reserve 4.19m 368.5' 112.32m
Millennium Humboldt Redwoods State Park 2.71m 367.2' 111.92m
Apex Humboldt Redwoods State Park 3.38m 366.9' 111.83m
Pipe Dream Humboldt Redwoods State Park 4.27m 366.5' 111.71m
Harry Cole Redwood National Park 4.94m 366.3' 111.65m
Rockefeller Humboldt Redwoods State Park 4.84m 366.1' 111.59m
Minaret Humboldt Redwoods State Park 3.66m 366.0' 111.56m
Alice Rhodes Humboldt Redwoods State Park 3.35m 365.9' 111.53m
Mother & Daughter Humboldt Redwoods State Park 3.60m 365.8' 111.50m
Lone Fern Humboldt Redwoods State Park 2.56m 365.7' 111.47m
Teepee Bell Montgomery Woods State Reserve 4.08m 365.3' 111.34m
Paul Zinke Humboldt Redwoods State Park 2.90m 365.2' 111.31m
Aether’s Arrow Humboldt Redwoods State Park 3.38m 364.7' 111.16m
Paul Zahl Redwood National Park 3.78m 364.7' 111.16m
Daedalus Redwood National Park 4.26m 363.4' 110.77m
Rocket Top Humboldt Redwoods State Park 3.29m 363.4' 110.77m
Pinnacle Humboldt Redwoods State Park 3.05m 363.2' 110.71m
Harriett Weaver Humboldt Redwoods State Park 4.11m 363.1' 110.68m
Pyramid Giant Humboldt Redwoods State Park 5.03m 363.1' 110.68m
Valentine Humboldt Redwoods State Park 3.47m 363.0' 110.65m
Libby (A.K.A. Tall) Redwood National Park 2.90m 362.9' 110.62m
Tranquility Humboldt Redwoods State Park 4.14m 362.7' 110.55m
Crown Jewel Redwood National Park 3.54m 362.2' 110.40m
South Fork Humboldt Redwoods State Park 4.02m 362.2' 110.40m
Springing Buck Humboldt Redwoods State Park 4.79m 361.5' 110.20m
Swamp Montgomery Woods State Reserve 3.41m 361.2' 110.09m
John Muir Humboldt Redwoods State Park 4.27m 361.1' 110.06m
T4 Redwood National Park 3.99m 361.1' 110.06m
Rockview Humboldt Redwoods State Park 3.84m 360.1' 110.03m


California Capital Museum, Sacramento
Measurer: Wim Brinkerink
RHI 5 = 133.84' 40.79m
RHI 10 = 120.13' 36.61m
RHI 20 = 102.52' 31.25m

1. coast redwood S. sempervirens 164.0' 50m
2. mountain-ash E. regnans 128.6' 39.2m
3. torrey pine P. torryana 126.0' 38.4m
4. tuliptree L. tulipifera 125.3' 38.2m
4. bunya pine A. bidwillii 125.3' 38.2m
6. incense cedar Calocedrus decurrens 118.1' 36.0m
7. Atlas cedar Cedrus atlantica 107.6' 32.8m
8. pecan C. illinoisenesis 105.0' 32.0m
9. water oak Q. nigra 101.7' 31.0m
10. Wych elm U. glabra 99.7' 30.4m

11. deodar cedar Cedrus deodara 96.4' 29.4m
11. Holm oak Q. Ilex 96.4' 29.4m
13. European nettle tree C. australis 92.5' 28.2m
14. field elm U. minor 91.8' 28.0m
15. shreve oak Q. parvula 87.7' 24.0m
16. Chinese elm U. parviflora 84.0' 25.6m
17. cork oak Q. suber 80.7' 24.6m
18. camphor tree C. camphora 75.4' 23.0m
18. Chinese weeping cypress C. funebris 75.4' 23.0m
20. black oak Q. velutina 68.9' 21.0m

21. coast live oak Q. agrifolia 55.7' 17.0m
21. N catalpa C. speciosa 55.7' 17.0m
23. S magnolia M. grandiflora 53.1' 16.2m
24. pagoda tree S. japonica 49.2' 15.0m
25. Guadeloupe cypress C. guadalupensis 48.5' 14.8m
26. California buckeye A. californica 38.0' 11.6m


Bidwell Mansion, Chico
Measurer: Wim Brinkerink
RHI 5 = 114.42' 34.87m

1. ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 164.0' 50.0m
2. coast redwood S. sempervirens 131.9' 40.20m
3. tuliptree L. tulipifera 95.1' 29.0m
4. S. magnolia M. grandiflora 93.2' 28.4m
5. Ginkgo biloba G. biloba 87.9' 26.8m
6. sweetgum L. styraciflua 85.9' 26.2m
7. cork oak Q. suber 66.9' 20.4m
8. black walnut J. nigra 63.6' 19.4m


Catalina Blvd, San Diego
Measurer: Wim Brinkerink
1. torrey pine P. torreyana 82.6' 25.2m
2. Canary Island pine P. canariensis 78.7' 24.0m
3. camphor tree C. camphora 49.8' 15.2m


Golden Hill Park, San Diego
Measurer: Wim Brinkerink
1. blue gum E. globulous 104.3' 31.8m
2. banya pine A. bidwilli 93.1' 28.4m
3. Moreton Bay fig F. macrophylla 49.8' 15.2m
4. red flowering gum E. ficifolia 42.6' 13.0m


Orange Ave Public Library
Measurer: Wim Brinkerink
1. Norfolk Island pine A. heterophylla 114.8' 35.0m
2. torrey pine P. torreyana 98.4' 30.0m
3. rosewood T. tipu 50.52' 15.4m


Lake Oroville State Park
Measurer: Wim Brinkerink
1. ghost pine P. sabiniana 88.5' 27.0m
2. interior live oak Q. wislizeni 59.0' 18.0m
3. blue oak Q. douglasii 55.7' 17.0m
4. canyon live oak Q. chrysolepis 44.6' 13.6m
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Re: Western States Rucker Comparisons

Post by MarkGraham » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:10 pm

Very nice.

Do you have any references for Sitka spruce, there are some over 300 feet in Prairie Creek.

Here is reference I see, on conifers.org under Picea sitchensis section. It mentions 96.7 meters / 317 feet.

https://www.conifers.org/pi/Picea_sitchensis.php
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Re: Western States Rucker Comparisons

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:37 pm

Mark,

I found nothing for sitka spruce in California.

Edit: Scratch that. I found a number of Van Pelt’s measurements and a bunch of other legit measurements as well. I’ll check out Conifers.org as well. Thanks for the tip. There will be many new numbers for the West Coast.

Brian
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Re: Western States Rucker Comparisons

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:01 pm

Nevada
State Rucker
RHI 3 = 125.00' 38.10m

1. Rocky Mtn Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa brachyptera 133.5' 40.69m
2. W white pine P. monticola 127.5' 39.0m
3. white fir A. concolor 114.0' 34.74m


Lee Canyon
Measurers: Matt Markworth, Chris Morris
RHI 3 = 107.6' 32.79m

1. Rocky Mtn Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa brachyptera 133.5' 40.69m
2. white fir A. concolor 114.0' 34.74m
3. bristlecone pine P. longaeva 75.3' 22.95m


Red Rock Canyon
Measurer: Matt Markworth
1. Rocky Mtn ponderosa pine P. pondrosa brachyptera 79.8' 24.32m
2. single leaf pinyon pine P. monophylla 32.7' 9.96m


Lake Tahoe
Measurer: Bob Van Pelt
1. W white pine P. monticola 127.5' 39.0m


Near Las Vegas
Measurer: Matt Markworth
1. single leaf pinyon pine P. monophylla 38.5' 11.73m
2. Jaeger's Joshua tree Y. brevifolia jaegeriana 29.0' 8.84m
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Re: Western States Rucker Comparisons

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:24 pm

Hawai'i

State Rucker
Measurer: Bob Leverett
RHI 3 = 175.33' 53.44m
RHI 5 = 165.60' 50.47m
RHI 8 = 144.48' 44.04m

1. blue gum Eucalyptus globulous 190.0' 57.91m
2. swamp mahogany Eucalyptus robusta 168.0' 51.20m
2. cook pine Auracaria columnaris 168.0' 51.20m
4. acacia Acacia koa 159.0' 48.46m
5. Auracaria spp. 143.0' 43.58m
6. Australian ironwood Casuarina equisetfolia 127.0' 38.71m
7. ohia Metrosidaros polymorpha 115.9' 35.32m
8. Indian banyan Ficus benghalensis 85.0' 25.90m

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Re: Western States Rucker Comparisons

Post by bbeduhn » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:55 pm

Western States by RHI 10, for most states


Western States Rucker
RHI 3 = 344.2' 104.91m
RHI 5 = 333.14' 101.54m
RHI 8 = 310.91' 94.76m
RHI 10 = 302.25' 92.12m
RHI 15 = 283.46' 86.40m
RHI 20 = 268.63' 81.88m
RHI 30 = 238.49' 72.69m
RHI 40 = 216.88' 66.10m
RHI 50 = 201.46' 61.40m

1. coast redwood S. sempervirens 380.3' 115.91m ("Hyperion" Redwoods NP Taylor, Atkins CA
2. Doug-fir Ps. menzeii 327.3' 99.76m Coos County "Brummett Fir" M. Taylor OR
3. noble fir A. procera 325.0' 99.06m Bob Van Pelt WA
4. sitka spruce P. sitchensis 317.2' 96.7m "Raven's Tower" Chris Atkins, Michael Taylor CA
5. giant sequoia S. giganteum 315.9' 96.28m Sequoia NP Blozan CA
6. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 274.5' 83.66m Tahoe NF Taylor CA
7. sugar pine P. lambertiana 273.7' 83.42m Tahoe NF Taylor CA
8. W hemlock Ts. heterophylla 273.4' 83.33m Prairie Creek SP Vaden CA
9. Lawson cypress Ch. lawsoniana 268.3' 81.08m Steve Sillett CA
10. grand fir A. grandis 267.0' 81.4m Glacier Peak Wilderness Bob Van Pelt WA

11. white fir A. concolor 257.5' 78.48m Tahoe NF Taylor, Kennedy CA
12. Red fir A. Magnifica 252.0’. 76.8m Van Pelt. CA
13. blue gum E. globulous 246.2' 75.04m Santa Cruz Co. Moore CA
14. Pacific silver fir A. amabilis 235.9' 71.9m Olympic NP Van Pelt WA
15. weeping W hemlock Ts. heterophylla pendula 235.0' 71.62m Prairie Creek SP Vaden CA
16. W redcedar Th. plicata 233.9' 71.3m Mt. Ranier Bob Van Pelt WA
17. W white pine P. monticola 231.9' 70.7m ID
18. incense cedar Calocedrus decurrens 229.0' 69.80m Umpqua NF B. Van Pelt OR
19. W larch L. occidentalis 213.0' 64.92m Pleasant Valley CG E. Whitcomb WA
19. Engelmann spruce P. engelmannii 213.0' 64.92m Alpine Lakes Bob Van Pelt

21. mountain hemlock Ts. mertensiana 193.9' 59.1m Olympic NP Van Pelt WA
22. Jeffrey pine P. jeffreyi "Eureka Valley Giant" 191.9' 58.5m CA
23. Colorado blue spruce P. pungens 180.6' 55.04m Hermosa Creek M. Markworth CO
24. black cottonwood P. trichocarpa 180.3' 54.95m Lewis River Van Pelt WA
25. bay laurel U. californica 179.5' 54.71m Hendy Woods Moore CA
26. California sycamore P. racemosa 178.6' 54.43m Santa Cruz Co Moore CA
27. subalpine fir A. lasiocarpa 172.0' 52.42m Alpine Lakes Van Pelt WA
28. Rocky Mtn Doug-fir Ps. menziesii glauca 169.4' 51.63m ID
29. swamp mahogany Eucalyptus robusta 168.0' 51.20m HI
29. cook pine Auracaria columnaris 168.0' 51.20m HI

31. tanoak N. densiflora 166.9' 50.87m Santa Cruz Co Moore CA
32. bigleaf maple A. macrophyllum 162.0' 49.37m Humboldt Redwoods Vaden CA
33. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa scapulorum 161.6' 49.25m ID
34. acacia Acacia koa 159.0' 48.46m HI
35. valley oak Q. lobata 153.0' 46.63m Taylor CA
36. lodgepole pine P. contorta 150.5' 45.87m Riddle CA
37. Washoe pine P. washoensis 145.0' 44.19m Taylor, Kennedy CA
38. Auracaria spp. 143.0' 43.58m HI
39. black poplar P. nigra italica 142.0' 43.28m Seattle ALJ
40. E sycamore P. occidentalis 137.5' 41.91m Fontenelle Forest NE

41. E cottonwood P. deltoides 135.8' 41.39m Fontenelle Forest NE
41. subalpine fir A. lasiocarpa 133.0' 40.53m CO
42. mountain-ash E. regnans 128.6' 39.19m CA
43. Australian ironwood Casuarina equisetfolia 127.0' 38.71m HI
43. SW white pine P. strobiformis 127.0' 38.71m
45. torrey pine P. torreyana 126.0' 38.40m
46. tuliptree L. tulipifera 125.3' 38.20m
47. bunya pine A. bidwilli 125.3' 38.20mAlaska cypress
48. C. nootkatensis 124.0' 37.8m Olympic NP Van Pelt
49. hybrid poplar P. x canadensis eugenei 124.0' 37.79m Pioneer Park Van Pelt
50. American elm U. americana 122.0' 37.18m Seattle Van Pelt


California
Measurers: Michael Taylor, Duncan Kennedy, Mario Vaden, Chris Atkins, Bob Van Pelt, Zane Moore, John Harvey, Mark Collins, Wim Brinkerink, Ryan LeClair, Will Blozan, Steve Sillett, John Montague, Marc Meyer, Elijah Whitcomb, Jess Riddle, Mike Hanusckik, Ascending the Giants, Giant Trees Foundation,
State Rucker
RHI 3 = 337.80' 102.96m
RHI 5 = 319.72' 97.45m
RHI 8 = 301.75' 91.97m
RHI 10 = 292.35' 89.10m
RHI 15 = 266.25' 81.15m
RHI 20 = 240.38' 73.26m
RHI 30 = 200.21' 61.02m

1. coast redwood S. sempervirens 380.3' 115.91m Redwoods NP Taylor, Atkins
2. sitka spruce P. sitchensis 317.2' 96.7m Chris Atkins, Michael Taylor
3. giant sequoia S. giganteum 315.9' 96.28m Sequoia NP Blozan
4. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 310.7' 94.70m Redwoods NP Taylor, Vaden, Atkins, Hanusckik
5. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 274.5' 83.66m Tahoe NF Taylor
6. sugar pine P. lambertiana 273.7' 83.42m Tahoe NF Taylor
7. W hemlock Ts. heterophylla 273.4' 83.33m Prairie Creek SP Vaden
8. Lawson cypress Ch. lawsoniana 268.3' 81.08m Steve Sillett
9. white fir A. concolor 257.5' Western Sierra Nevadas Taylor, Kennedy
10. red fir A. magnifica 252.0’ 76.81m Van Pelt

11. blue gum E. globulous 246.2' 75.04m Santa Cruz Co. Moore
12. weeping W hemlock Ts. heterophylla pendula 235.0' 71.62m Prairie Creek SP Vaden
13. incense cedar C. decurrens 217.7' 66.35m Kings Canyon NP
14. Jeffrey pine P. jeffreyi "Eureka Valley Giant" 191.9' 58.5m
15. bay laurel U. californica 179.5' 54.71m Hendy Woods Moore
16. California sycamore P. racemosa 178.6' 54.43m Santa Cruz Co Moore
17. tanoak N. densiflora 166.9' 50.87m Santa Cruz Co Moore
18. bigleaf maple A. macrophyllum 162.0' 49.37m Humboldt Redwoods Vaden
19. valley oak Q. lobata 153.0' 46.63m Taylor
20. lodgepole pine P. contorta 150.5' 45.87m Riddle

21. Washoe pine P. washoensis 145.0' 44.19m Taylor, Kennedy
22. mountain-ash E. regnans 128.6' 39.19m
23. torrey pine P. torreyana 126.0' 38.40m
24. tuliptree L. tulipifera 125.3' 38.20m
24. bunya pine A. bidwilli 125.3' 38.20m
26. Murray's lodgepole pine P. contorta murrayana 115.0' 35.05m
27. Norfolk Island pine A. heterophylla 114.8' 34.99m
28. Atlas cedar C. atlantica 107.6' 32.79m
29. Monterey cypress C. macrocarpa 106.3' 32.40m
30. pecan C. illinoisensis 105.0' 32.00m


Washington
Measurers: Elijah Whitcomb, Bob Van Pelt, Nick Cummins, Rand Brown,
RHI 3 = 318.66' 97.13m
RHI 5 = 291.77' 88.93m
RHI 8 = 266.36' 81.19m
RHI 10 = 255.68' 77.93m
RHI 15 = 229.24' 69.87m
RHI 20 = 206.22' 62.85m
RHI 30 = 177.73' 54.17m

1. Doug-fir Ps. menziesii 326.0' 99.36m Olympic NP Bob Van Pelt
2. noble fir A. procera 325.0' 99.06m Bob Van Pelt
3. sitka spruce P. sitchensis 305.0' 92.96m Queets River, Olympic NP Bob Van Pelt
4. grand fir A. grandis 267.0' 81.4m Glacier Peak Wilderness Bob Van Pelt
5. Pacific silver fir A. amabilis 235.9' 71.9m Olympic NP Van Pelt
6. W redcedar Th. plicata 233.9' 71.3m Mt. Ranier Bob Van Pelt
7. W hemlock Ts. heterophylla 224.2' 68.33m Hoh Rainforest E. Whitcomb
8. W. white pine P. monticola 214.0' 65.22m Gifford Pinchot NF Bob Van Pelt
9. W larch L. occidentalis 213.0' 64.92m Pleasant Valley CG E. whitcomb
9. Engelmann spruce P. engelmannii 213.0' 64.92m Alpine Lakes Bob Van Pelt

11. mountain hemlock Ts. mertensiana 193.9' 59.1m Olympic NP Van Pelt
12. black cottonwood P. trichocarpa 180.3' 54.95m Lewis River Van Pelt
13. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 178.7' 54.46m Pleasant Valley CG E. Whitcomb
14. subalpine fir A. lasiocarpa 172.0' 52.42m Alpine Lakes Van Pelt
15. giant redwood S. giganteum 157.0' 47.85m Wind River Van Pelt
16. coast redwood S. sempervirens 149.0' 45.51m Seattle ALJ
17. W white pine P. monticola 142.9' 43.55m Pleasant Valley CG E. Whitcomb
18. black poplar P. nigra italica 142.0' 43.28m Seattle ALJ
19. lodgepole pine P. contorta 127.9' 38.98m Pleasant Valley CG E. Whitcomb
20. hybrid poplar P. x canadensis eugenei 124.0' 37.79m Pioneer Park Van Pelt

20. Alaska cypress C. nootkatensis 124.0' 37.8m Olympic NP Van Pelt
22. American elm U. americana 122.0' 37.18m Seattle Van Pelt
22. London planetree A. x acerifolia 122.0' 37.18m Walla Walla Van Pelt
22. hybrid poplar P. x canadensis robusta 122.0' 37.18m Pioneer Park Van Pelt
25. tuliptree L. tulipifera 121.0' 36.88m Seattle & Tacoma Van Pelt
26. pecan C. Illinoisensis 120.0' 36.57m Walla Walla Van Pelt
26. field elm U. minor 120.0' 36.57m Seattle Van Pelt
28. bigleaf maple A. macrophyllum 119.5' 36.42m Lake Quinault E. Whitcomb
29. white poplar P. alba bolleana 119.0' 36.27m Vashon Islamd Van Pelt
30. Wych elm U. glabra 118.0' 35.96m Tacoma Van Pelt


Oregon
Measurers: Michael Taylor, Mario Vaden, Mike Hanusckik, Chris Atkins, Stefan Radivoyevitch, Bob Van Pelt, John Montague, Zane Moore
RHI 3 = 300.76' 91.67m
RHI 5 = 287.39' 87.59m
RHI 8 = 267.11' 84.41m
RHI 10 = 254.98' 77.72m

1. Doug-fir Ps. menzeii 327.3' 99.76m Cooc County (Brummett Fir) M. Taylor
2. coast redwood Sequioa sempervirens 298.0' 90.83m S. Oregon Z. Moore
3. sitka spruce P. sitchensis 277.0' 84.43m Munson Ck Falls S. Radivoyevitch
4. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 268.7' 81.90m Siskiyou NF M. Taylor, M. Vaden
5. Lawson cypress Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 266.0' 81.08m Taylor, Vaden
6. sugar pine P. Lambertiana 259.0' 78.94m Togue River M. Taylor, J. Montague
7. incense cedar Calocedrus decurrens 229.0' 69.80m Umpqua NF B. Van Pelt
8. giant sequioa Sequoia giganteum 212.0' 64.61m
9. W hemlock Ts. heterophylla 207.0' 63.09m Munson Ck Falls S. Radivoyevitch
10. W redcedar Th. plicata 206.0' 62.78m Munson Ck Falls S. Radivoyevitch


Idaho
Measurers: Turner Sharp, Elijah Whitcomb, Bob Van Pelt
RHI 3 = 194.90' 59.40m
RHI 5 = 183.14' 55.82m
RHI 10 = 156.55' 47.71m

1. W white pine P. monticola 231.9' 70.7m
2. W larch L. occidentalis 176.7' 53.85m
3. grand fir A. grandis 176.1' 53.67m
4. Rocky Mtn Doug-fir Ps. menziesii glauca 169.4' 51.63m
5. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa scapulorum 161.6' 49.25m
6. Engelmann spruce P. engelmannii 161.3' 49.16m
7. W redcedar Th. plicata 156.7' 47.76m
8. white fir A. glauca 129.0' 39.32m
9. lodgepole pine P. contorta 111.1' 33.86m
10. subalpine fir A. lasiocarpa 90.4' 27.55m


Hawai'i
Measurer: Bob Leverett
RHI 3 = 175.33' 53.44m
RHI 5 = 165.60' 50.47m
RHI 8 = 144.48' 44.04m

1. blue gum Eucalyptus globulous 190.0' 57.91m
2. swamp mahogany Eucalyptus robusta 168.0' 51.20m
2. cook pine Auracaria columnaris 168.0' 51.20m
4. acacia Acacia koa 159.0' 48.46m
5. Auracaria spp. 143.0' 43.58m
6. Australian ironwood Casuarina equisetfolia 127.0' 38.71m
7. ohia Metrosidaros polymorpha 115.9' 35.32m
8. Indian banyan Ficus benghalensis 85.0' 25.90m


Colorado
Measurers: Matt Markworth, Larry Tucei, Bob Leverett, Will Blozan, Mark Rouw, Chris Morris, Rand Brown, Bob Van
Pelt, Don Bragg, Patty Jenkins, Peter Jenkins, Lee Frelich, Don Bertolette, Dave Stahle
RHI 3 = 170.67' 52.02m
RHI 5 = 165.06' 50.31m
RHI 9 = 146.36' 44.61m

1. Colorado blue spruce P. pungens 180.6' 55.04m
2. Rocky Myn Doug-fir Ps. menziesii glauca 169.0' 51.51m
3. white fir P. glauca 162.4' 49.50m
4. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 160.8' 49.01m
5. Engelmann spruce P. engelmannii 152.5' 46.48m
6. subalpine fir A. lasiocarpa 133.0' 40.53m
7. SW white pine P. strobiformis 127.0' 38.71m
8. narrowleaf cottonwood P. angustifolia 117.0' 35.66m
9. quaking aspen P. tremuloides 115.0' 35.05m


Arizona
Measurer: Turner Sharp
RHI 5 = 128.34' 39.11m
RHI 10 = 110.09' 33.58m

1. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa 146.7' 44.71m Oak Creek Canyon
2. Rocky Mtn Doug-fir Ps. menzeii glauca 143.2' 43.64m Oak Creek Canyon
3. Engelmann spruce P. engelmannii 126.0' 38.40m Kaibab Lake
4. Arizona sycamore P. wrightii 119.9' 36.54m Oak Creek Canyon
5. Arizona alder A. oblongifolia 105.9' 32.27m Pinaleo Mountains
6. Fremont cottonwood P. fremontii 101.3' 30.87m Oak Creek Canyon
7. Gambel oak Q. gambelli 92.3' 28.13m Oak Creek Canyon
8. Lombardy poplar P. nigra 90.9' 27.70m Oak Creek Canyon
9. white fir A. concolor 88.8' 27.06m Molino Basin
10. quaking aspen P. tremuloides 86.9' 26.48m Kaibab Lake


Nebraska
Measurer: Jess Riddle
RHI 5= 121.54' 37.04m
RHI 10 = 110.29' 33.61m

1. E sycamore P. occidentalis 137.5' 41.91m Fontenelle Forest
2. E cottonwood P. deltoides 135.8' 41.39m Fontenelle Forest
3. black walnut J. nigra 121.4' 37.00m Fontenelle Forest
4. Am basswood T. americana 107.5' 32.76m Fontenelle Forest
5. Kentucky Coffetree G. dioicus 105.5' 32.15m Fontenelle Forest
6. white ash F. americana 101.4' 30.90m Fontenelle Forest
7. N red oak Q. rubra 100.6' 30.66m Fontenelle Forest
8. hackberry C. occidentalis 99.8' 30.42m Fontenelle Forest
9. green ash F. pennsylvanica 97.1' 29.59m Fontenelle Forest
10. honeylocust G. triancothos 96.3' 29.35m Fontenelle Forest


Wyoming
Measurers: Bob Leverett, Matt Markworth
RHI 3 = 125.13' 38.14m
RHI 5 = 111.72' 34.05m

1. Engelmann spruce P. engelmannii 131.9' 40.20m Purgatory Gulch
2. Colorado blue spruce P. pungens 130.5' 39.77m Phillipps Pass
3. Rocky Mtn Doug-fir Ps. menziesii glauca 113.0' 34.44m Phillipps Pass
4. narrowleaf cottonwood P. angustifolia 92.6' 28.22m Pacific Creek
5. lodgepole pine P. contorta 90.6' 27.61m String Lake
6. subalpine fir A. lasiocarpa 80.4' 24.50m Colter Bay


South Dakota
Measurers: Jess Riddle, Turner Sharp
RHI 5 = 107.54' 32.77m
RHI 10 = 86.64' 26.40m

1. Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa scopulorum 144.0' 44.01m French Creek
2. E cottonwood P. deltoides 119.4' 36.39m Dakota Dunes
3. white spruce P. glauca 114.1' 34.77m Needles Hwy
4. peachleaf willow S. amygdaloides 80.5' 24.53m Dakota Dunes
5. green ash F. pennsylvanica 79.7' 24.29m Dakota Dunes
6. quaking aspen P. tremuloides 75.5' 23.01m Needles Hwy
7. boxelder A. nigrum 69.6' 21.21m Dakota Dunes
8. paper birch B. papyrifera 66.5' 20.27m Needles Hwy
9. narrowleaf cottonwood P. angustifolia 59.0' 17.98m Needles Hwy
10. bur oak Q. macrocarpa 58.1' 17.70m Black Hills


Nevada
Measurers: Matt Markworth, Chris Morris, Bob Van Pelt
RHI 3 = 125.00' 38.10m

1. Rocky Mtn Ponderosa pine P. ponderosa brachyptera 133.5' 40.69m
2. W white pine P. monticola 127.5' 39.0m
3. white fir A. concolor 114.0' 34.74m
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