eNTS Magqazine October 2012

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#1)  eNTS Magqazine October 2012

Postby edfrank » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:36 pm

eNTS: The Magazine of the Native Tree Society,
Volume 2, Number 10, October 2012

               
                       
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http://www.nativetreesociety.org/magazine/2012/NTS_October2012_01.pdf
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/magazine/2012/NTS_October2012_02.pdf
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/magazine/2012/NTS_October2012_03.pdf
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/magazine/2012/NTS_October2012_04.pdf

I want to remind the readers of this magazine that the articles presented here are only a part, usually just the beginning, of the discussions being held on our BBS at http://www.ents-bbs.org .  The full discussion can be read by clicking on the link embedded in the title of each individual article. - Edward Frank

Editor’s Corner
By Edward Frank

Each month I try to figure out what to post as an editorial introduction to that month’s issue.  It is difficult because I have lived with the months worth of posts to the BBs.  I read them all and respond to many of them.  Sometimes an event or find really stands out and that can be the subject of the editorial.  Sometimes it is some organizational structure discussion or change I want to emphasize. I admit at times I have simply chosen one of Robert Leverett’s discussions of the past and future of the NTS and use that as a de facto guest editorial.  That is what I originally intended to do this month, with his overview of the big MTSF Advanced Tree Measuring workshop.  But, events overtook that intention.  

We had a fantastic Advanced Tree Measuring Workshop conducted by Robert Leverett at Mohawk Trail State Forest viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4592  

We had poetry by Ryan leClair – The Moosewood Tree  viewtopic.php?f=317&t=4495
Tom Howard Posted a series of reports from upstate New York: viewtopic.php?f=105&t=4595
The was a series on the Evaluation of various types of  laser rangefinders: viewtopic.php?f=235&t=4585
A really important consideration for the NTS is the beginnings of listing the various groups the NTS has worked with and with whom we have had informal or formal partnerships: viewtopic.php?f=281&t=4560
Michael Taylor found another record – the new world’s tallest Sugar Pine 264' (80.4m) the "Sugar Tower". viewtopic.php?f=69&t=4588
A beautiful series of photos and reports from Colorado by James Robert Smith starting with: viewtopic.php?f=70&t=4583
Michael Gatonska continued his series of natural soundscapes with Thumper Mountain Sunrise: viewtopic.php?f=246&t=4608
New member Zane Moore post about the tallest hardwoods he has found in west coast with some new height records: viewtopic.php?f=69&t=4601
An article appeared in the National Park Travelor Tallest Native Hardwood Tree In North America Is Located In A National Park
Submitted by Jim Burnett on October 24, 2012  featuring the tallest tuliptree found by NTS last spring.  viewtopic.php?f=297&t=4632
Our European contingent, with Kouta Rasanen, Joroen Philippona, and Michael Spraggon started a series of posts on a summer expedition to the Balkans in several former Yugoslav republics: viewforum.php?f=386 including the Sgerm Spruce which is the tallest native European tree: viewtopic.php?f=386&t=4642
Mario Vaden reports on his discovery of a new Maple height record for Bigleaf maple:  The Humbolt Honey at 157.8 ft. in northern California: viewtopic.php?f=69&t=4644
Brian Beduhn posted about numerous trips this month and included excellent photos of the Middleton oak and Angel Oak in South Carolina: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4582
There were many more posts by people new to the organization and by NTS founders Robert Leverett and Will Blozan.  There is just too may things that have happened in this past month that warrants mention that I simply can’t fit them all into on editorial.  So I guess all of you will need to read this issue of the magazine and click on the incorporated links to read the full discussions, or visit the BBS at http://www.ents-bbs.org  and dive into the discussions. 



Table of Contents                                                                                 3
Editor’s Corner                                                                                  6
Goulding Creek Trail , CO - Bob Leverett's Suggested Hike by James Robert Smith                         7
Re: Biltmore Estate Trees by Brian Beduhn                                                        14
In 'Music Of Trees,' A Symphony In The Key Of Cedar - link                                        14
Re: Metasequoia Glyptostroboides (Dawn Redwood) by Brina Beduhn                                 14
Scenery from Colorado by James Robert Smith                                                        15
Global Warming could cripple SW forests - link                                                 16
Re: Global Warming could cripple SW forests by James Robert Smith                         16
Re: Scenery from Colorado by James Robert Smith                                                17
Middleton Oak and Angel Oak by Larry Tucei                                                         18
Re: Middleton Oak and Angel Oak by Larry Tucei                                        18
Re: Middleton Oak and Angel Oak by Brian Beduhn                                        18
Re: Middleton Oak and Angel Oak by Larry Tucei                                         18
Leica Disto D8 by Kouta Rasenan                                                                19
Re: Leica Disto D8 by Robert Leverett                                                19
Re: Leica Disto D8 by Karlheinz Brüne                                                19
Enchanting Paper Mulberry (Broussonetia papyrifera), VA by Ryan LeClair                         20
Measurement Exercises for October 12th by Robert Leverett                                        21
October 12th Advanced Tree Measuring Workshop by Robert Leverett                                23
Advanced Tree Measuring Workshop,Mohawk Trail State Forest,
Conducted by Bob Leverett, Oct 12, 2012, 9:00AM – 4:30PM - Handout                        24
Bushwhack Hits Paydirt, CA by M.W.Taylor                                                         44
Re: Bushwhack Hits Paydirt by Robert Levertt                                                45
Re: Bushwhack Hits Paydirt by M.W.Taylor                                                 45
Evaluation of Laser Rangefinders by Kouta Rasenan                                                46
Re: Evaluation of Laser Rangefinders by Robert Leverett                                46
Re: Evaluation of Laser Rangefinders by Kouta Rasenan                                        46
Re: Evaluation of Laser Rangefinders by M.W.Taylor                                         47
Re: Evaluation of Laser Rangefinders by Robert Leverett                                48
Re: Washington Grove City Park, NY by Gary Reif                                                48
Re: Washington Grove City Park, NY by Tom Howard                                        48
Re: NTS Partnerships by Turner Sharp                                                        49
Cathedral Pines of 7th Lake, NY by Tom Howard                                                49
Raquette Lake Red Pines, NY by Tom Howard                                                        50
Re: Raquette Lake Red Pines, NY by Neil Pederson                                        51
Holland Patent Cemetery, NY by Tom Howard                                                        51
Re: Holland Patent Cemetery by Will Blozan                                                 52
Re: Holland Patent Cemetery by Tom Howard                                                53
Re: Holland Patent Cemetery by Gaines McMartin                                        53
Re: Holland Patent Cemetery  by Will Blozan                                                 54
Re: Holland Patent Cemetery by Tom Howard                                                54
Re: Holland Patent Cemetery by Gaines McMartin                                        54
Re: Holland Patent Cemetery by Edward Frank                                                55
Re: Holland Patent Cemetery by Tom Howard                                                55
Weminuch Spruce, CO by James Robert Smith                                                        56
Re: Chernobyl's de facto Wilderness Area - video                                                57
Re: Chernobyl's de facto Wilderness Area by Joe zorzin                                        57
Re: Chernobyl's de facto Wilderness Area by James Robert Smith                                58
Re: Chernobyl's de facto Wilderness Area by Joe Zorzin                                        59
Re: Chernobyl's de facto Wilderness Area by James Robert Smith                                59
Schopenhauer and Nature by Ryan LeClair                                                        59
Great Old Broads Pine on Broad Brook, MA by Robert Leverett                                        60
Tallest California Hardwoods Update: by Zane Moore                                                61
Re: Tallest California Hardwoods Update: by M.W.Taylor                                62
Re: Tallest California Hardwoods Update: by Zane Moore                                62
Re: Tallest California Hardwoods Update: by Don Bertolette                                62
Re: NTS Partnerships by James Parton                                                        62
Big Tree hunter shares his findings... by John Harvey                                                63
Re: Big Tree hunter shares his findings... by John Harvey                                63
Re: Evaluation of Laser Rangefinders by Robert Leverett                                        63
Re: Evaluation of Laser Rangefinders by Don Bertolette                                        64
Re: Evaluation of Laser Rangefinders by Joe Zorzin                                        64
Central Park, NYC by Joe Zorzin                                                                 64
Re: Bushwhack Hits Paydirt by Matt Smilie                                                        66
What kind of oaks are these? (Plus Yo Momma's Big Aspen) CO by James Robert Smith                68
Re: What kind of oaks are these? (Plus Yo Momma's Big Aspen) CO by Robert Leverett        70
Re: Height Sub-Routine No Better Than Using A Tape-Line ? by M. D. Vaden                         70
Re: Height Sub-Routine No Better Than Using A Tape-Line ? by Robert Leverett                70
Redwood Needle Shedding by Mark Collins                                                         71
Re: Redwood Needle Shedding by M. D. Vaden                                        72
Other Events Surrounding the October 12th Advanced Tree Measuring Workshop by Edward Frank        72
October 12th Advanced Tree Measuring Workshop by Robert Leverett                                75
Re: Big Tree hunter shares his findings... by Andrew Joslin                                        76
Re: Big Tree hunter shares his findings... by John Harvey                                76
Nice white ash found, NJ by John Harvey                                                        77
Thumper Mountain Sunrise, MA by Michael Gatonska                                                 77
Rounding rules for TP200 and TP360 by Robert Leverett                                        78
Re: Middleton Oak and Angel Oak by Neil Pederson                                                79
Re: Middleton Oak and Angel Oak by Brian Beduhn                                        79
More bad news... by James Robert Smith                                                         80
Freakin Big Oak, MA by Robert Leverett                                                        81
Re: Asheville Trees by Brian Beduhn                                                                82
Re: Metasequoia Glyptostroboides (Dawn Redwood) by Brian Beduhn                                82
Re: Bear attack! (On my Doug-fir tree?!?!) by Kirk Johnson                                        82
Re: Ents Mascot by Rand Brown                                                                83
Re: The tallest tree of Europe? by Kouta Rasenan                                                84
Re: October 12th Advanced Tree Measuring Workshop video by Joe Zorzin                         84
Re: October 12th Advanced Tree Measuring Workshop by Edward Frank                         84
The vanishing groves – Link                                                                87
Re: The vanishing groves by Don Bertolette                                                87
Made greatest trees you tube video... by John Harvey                                                87
American Chestnuts, Pepperell, MA by by E. Morgan                                                88
Re: American Chestnuts, Pepperell, MA by E. Morgan                                         89
Vine ID help, Georgia by Eli Dickerson                                                        89
Crane Beach, MA by Robert Leverett                                                                90
Re: Crane Beach by Robert Leverett                                                        92
NTS Tuliptree study in NPS news 10/24/12 by Will Blozan                                        94
The Fisher Pine, MA by Robert Leverett                                                        94
Beginnings of Laser Rangefinder Sine Based Tree Height Measurement  by Edward Frank                95
Archaeology of Autumn by Edward Frank                                                        101
Balkans Expedition 2012 (to the region of former Yugoslavia)
Balkans Expedition 2012 - Location Map (Former Yugoslavia) by Edward Frank                        102
Introduction – Balkans Expedition 2012 (to former Yugoslavia) by Jeroen Philippona                 103
Balkans Expedition 2012 Travelogue Part 1 by Michael J Spraggon                                 103
Re: Balkans Expedition 2012 Travelogue Part 1 by Michael J Spraggon                         108
Re: Balkans Expedition 2012 Travelogue Part 1 by Edward Frank                                108
The Sgerm Spruce – the tallest native European tree? by Kouta Rasenan                                110
Re: The Sgerm Spruce – the tallest native European tree? by Kouta Rasenan                112
Maple Height Record - Humboldt Honey - 157.8 ft. (CA) by M. D. Vaden                                113
Big Pines Hwy 89 (Lake Tahoe) by Mark Collins                                                 114
Re: Big Pines Hwy 89 (Lake Tahoe) by Don Bertolette                                        116
A Few More Big Pines Along Hwy 50: Kokanee Salmon (Lake Tahoe, CA) by Mark Collins                 116
Re: A Few More Big Pines Along Hwy 50: Kokanee Salmon (Lake Tahoe, CA) by Don Bertolette        120
Climbing the biggest eucalypt in the world, Tasmania - video link                                        120
Re: Middleton Oak, SC by Brian Beduhn                                                        120
Re:  Angel Oak, SC by Brian Beduhn                                                                122
Criterion RD1000 testing by Robert Leverett                                                        126
Re: Criterion RD1000 testing by Don Bertolette                                        127
Missing part of diameter calculations for Don Bertolette by Robert Leverett                                127
Re: Missing part of diameter calculations for Don Bertolette by Robert Leverett                127
Re: Missing part of diameter calculations for Don Bertolette by Robert Leverett                128
Re: Asheville Trees by Brian Beduhn                                                                129
Buckland State Forest, MA by Ryan LeClair                                                         130
Can anyone ID this tree, please? by Mike McGuire                                                131
Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please? by Steve Galehouse                                131
Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please? by Mike McGuire                                        131
Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please? by Matt Smilie                                        132
Re: Can anyone ID this tree, please? by Matt Smilie                                        132
Reforming the Rocky Mountain Native Tree Society? by Edward Frank                                133
Re: Reforming the Rocky Mountain Native Tree Society by Robert Leverett                135
Re: Reforming the Rocky Mountain Native Tree Society by Don Bertolette                        135
Re: Reforming the Rocky Mountain Native Tree Society by Robert Leverett                135
Re: Reforming the Rocky Mountain Native Tree Society by Chris Morris                        136
Re: Reforming the Rocky Mountain Native Tree Society by Robert Leverett                136
Re: Reforming the Rocky Mountain Native Tree Society by Don Bertolette                        137
Re: Reforming the Rocky Mountain Native Tree Society by Robert Leverett                137
Re: Reforming the Rocky Mountain Native Tree Society by Edward Frank                        138
Re: A Few More Big Pines Along Hwy 50: Kokanee Salmon (Lake Tahoe, CA) by Mark Collins         138
Re: A Few More Big Pines Along Hwy 50: Kokanee Salmon (Lake Tahoe, CA) by M. W. Taylor         138
Re: Biltmore Estate Trees, NC by Brian Beduhn                                                139
Middleton Place, SC by Brian Beduhn                                                        140
Re: Middleton Place, SC by Brian Beduhn                                                142
Re: Asheville, NC Trees by Brian Beduhn                                                        145
Riverview Cemetery, Asheville, NC by Brian Beduhn                                                145
Re: Maple Height Record - Humboldt Honey - 157.8 ft. by M. W. Taylor                                 146
Re: Big Pines Hwy 89 (Lake Tahoe) by Mark Collins                                                 146
Networking, Outreach and Partnerships by Edward Frank                                        147
Videos - Falling trees in Hurricane Sandy posted by Edward Frank                                 149
Re: Videos - Falling trees in Hurricane Sandy by James Robert Smith                        149
Re: Videos - Falling trees in Hurricane Sandy by Rand Brown                                149
WNC Arboretum Bonsai Pics by Brian Beduhn                                                150
Re: Vine ID help, Georgia by Eli Dickerson                                                        152
Re: Vine ID help, Georgia  by Jess Riddle                                                 153
Re: Vine ID help, Georgia by Eli Dickerson                                                153
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#2)  Re: eNTS Magqazine October 2012

Postby dbhguru » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:45 pm

Ed,

  Another Herculean effort to insure that our collective efforts do not become scattered and lost in cyberspace. We have thanked you in the past, and we thank you for this edition, and we will thank you for future editions.

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