Looking at a strange oak with an objective in mind

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Re: Looking at a strange oak with an objective in mind

Post by tsharp » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:06 pm

NTS:
Bob wrote "Would anybody really advocate measuring this as a single tree?
Apparently the aptly named (by will Blozan) "Connecticut multi-stemmed tree dream team" would not have any problem measuring this as a single tree.
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Re: Looking at a strange oak with an objective in mind

Post by dbhguru » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:52 pm

Turner,

That's pretty funny, but also quite true. If we shine enough spotlights on such foolish entries without getting into who measured what, I think we will win.

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Re: Looking at a strange oak with an objective in mind

Post by sam goodwin » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:19 pm

Bob and all, yesterday while looking for a geocache, which I found in a interesting white pine in Enfield, Ct, I was going to take some pictures of it but forgot to bring my camera. I went back today to measure it and take pictures. With my wife holding a bright light I went out 100 yards or so and found a narrow corridor through the under brush where I could see her and the tree top. Unless a small branch got in the way I got it at 85 feet or so high @14' 6" cbh. There was a white pine near the pond shore that I measured at 94 feet high. Back to the first tree, there are 4 trunks that starts to split just at 4.5 feet. One trunk is dead and with a few more storms it my become 3 trunks. I took pictures from all 4 sides. As I was driving to Enfield I remembered seeing a 4 trunk oak behind a cemetery in Suffield that grows out of one,(?) base. I just got a new computer so I hope I can send the pictures. You can tell but the first 3 pictures are the oak. Sam Goodwin
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Re: Looking at a strange oak with an objective in mind

Post by dbhguru » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:06 pm

Sam,

Thanks. The 4-trunk oak(s) points to the big issue. Those who want to measure the four touching trunks as one versus those who do not highlight the debate - well, one of the debates.

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Re: Looking at a strange oak with an objective in mind

Post by Matt Markworth » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:51 pm

Hi All,

Here's an 18.66' girth (at 2.5', below the cut branch) Ginkgo biloba at Spring Grove Cemetery in Cincinnati. It's not a Champion, but it is an impressive specimen.

Based on seeing this tree in person, I think that it is multi-trunked. The first photo shows evidence of 2 piths at ground level. However, if I had only been presented with the second photo, then I probably wouldn't question the tree if I saw it on a Champion list. As others have said before, Champion trees should be presented with photos from various angles.
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- Matt
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Re: Looking at a strange oak with an objective in mind

Post by sam goodwin » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:08 am

About the oak, total cbh @ 4.5' was 18' 4" and 104' high. Each trunk was, 7' 11", 6' 11", 6' and 5' 4". Sam

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Re: Looking at a strange oak with an objective in mind

Post by Joe » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:11 am

dbhguru wrote:Sam,

Thanks. The 4-trunk oak(s) points to the big issue. Those who want to measure the four touching trunks as one versus those who do not highlight the debate - well, one of the debates.

Bob
How about having a seperate listing of multiple stem trees? After all, they're neat too.
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Re: Looking at a strange oak with an objective in mind

Post by edfrank » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:21 am

Joe wrote:How about having a separate listing of multiple stem trees? After all, they're neat too.
Joe
That is the approach I support.

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