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#1)  Biaowieza logging

Postby Lucas » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:30 pm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/77a2f87f0fa6293ca02da85fac69a0da.htm

Beetles induce logging

Polish authorities say they plan to log 6.4 million cubic feet of an ancient European forest to control a devastating bark beetle infestation.
We travel the Milky way together, trees and men. - John Muir
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#2)  Re: Biaowieza logging

Postby KoutaR » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:51 am

the logging plans would not apply to strictly protected areas of the primeval forest that was designated a Unesco World Heritage site in 1979.


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... val-forest

Outside the strictly protected area, there has already been loggings. "Europe’s tallest trees" in the Guardian article is bullshit, of course. Or should I say bisonshit.

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#3)  Re: Biaowieza logging

Postby Rand » Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:01 am

On the plus side, there's one less clueless American stumbling around pronouncing "Biaowieza" laughably wrong...
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#4)  Re: Biaowieza logging

Postby Joe » Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:02 am

The old debate about logging vs. no logging almost always ignores "what kind of logging?"- that is, is intelligent silviculture going to be applied? I presume Poland has intelligent foresters who'll do it as well as possible- or maybe not- because like politics, there is always a debate about silviculture- depending on the objectives.
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#5)  Re: Biaowieza logging

Postby KoutaR » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:39 am

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#6)  Re: Biaowieza logging

Postby Jeroen Philippona » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:11 am

Kouta,

"Europe’s tallest trees"  is no bull- or bisonshit when looking for the tallest known specimen of still 4 species (among wich Quercus robur, Populus tremula and Betula pendula) and second to third location for 4 or 5 other species among wich Pinus sylvestris.
So for native trees it is still a place with tall trees. Not especially for Picea abies: it is comparatively dry, with long, cold winters, high groundwater tables and more risk to fall over compared with the sheltered coves and valleys were the really tall Norway spruces grow.
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#7)  Re: Biaowieza logging

Postby KoutaR » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:23 am

Jeroen,

You are right if we are talking about species records. I did not want to dispute the value of the forest as an extraordinary place for big trees. But I believe there are already two errors here:
Europe’s tallest trees, firs towering 50m high (164ft), and oaks and ashes of 40m, also flourish here...


I think there are no firs in Bialowieza, right? And there are much taller trees elsewhere. Anyway, the text may be fine for an average reader.
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#8)  Re: Biaowieza logging

Postby Jeroen Philippona » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:02 am

Indeed there are no firs in Bialowieza, they mean spruces of course.
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