139' hickory, Derby, CT

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RyanLeClair
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139' hickory, Derby, CT

Post by RyanLeClair » Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:46 pm

Today I measured a hickory Bart and I stumbled upon a few weeks ago. The tree grows in a ravine, so it's had to grow tall in order to get sun. I got 139' as a height. 7'10" circumference at breast height.

I think this height measurement is reliable. A few weeks ago I got 138 ft. on a straight-up, so 139 certainly is reasonable.

Now, a question: bitternut or mockernut????

Anyways, it's a neat tree--spectacular, even.
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ElijahW
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Re: 139' hickory, Derby, CT

Post by ElijahW » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:45 pm

Ryan,

Very nice bitternut, as far as I can tell. I'm not real familiar with mockernut though, so I could be wrong. If you can find any nuts they're very easy to tell apart. That's usually my approach when I'm not sure about a hickory or oak. Is this old growth? The trees in the background look pretty uniform and slender, suggesting a harvest at some point.

Elijah
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Re: 139' hickory, Derby, CT

Post by George Fieo » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:47 pm

Ryan,

That's one impressive hickory! Congratulations to you and Bart. It looks like a bitternut to me. The easiest way to identify a bitternut is it's pointed yellow buds although they may be hard to see on forest grown trees. A good pair of binoculars may help.

George

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Re: 139' hickory, Derby, CT

Post by eliahd24 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:53 pm

Definitely look for some nuts in the leaf litter. Bitternut have really thin shells and Mockernuts are very thick. This is a beauty- good find. I'm just now starting to document hickory species in metro-Atlanta. Jess and I have found a couple C. glabra over 140'. I've got one bitternut at 133' and I don't think i've gotten much over 120' for mockernut.

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Re: 139' hickory, Derby, CT

Post by RyanLeClair » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:38 pm

Thank you for the ID help, guys. I don't think this is old-growth, but I'm not good at determining what is and isn't old-growth. There is a 120' x 12' sycamore not far from the hickory--that's probably got some age to it. But there also were a lot of beanpole sugar maples in the >1 ft DBH range.

Eli, do you have any photos of those C. glabra?

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Re: 139' hickory, Derby, CT

Post by eliahd24 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:04 pm

I should... if I can dig them up I'll post them for you.

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