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#1)  Its time to play...Multi-trunk or Single-trunk! YOU decide.

Postby John Harvey » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:42 pm

Ok, so I'm posting 11 photos below of various large trees I've discovered or visited. I want YOU, valued members of NTS, to give your opinion on whether the tree in each photo is multi or single trunked. I already know my opinions. Some are obvious, some are difficult. More photos available of each tree upon request. Have fun. Discussion welcomed.
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Fries Mill rd 1.jpg
Silver Maple 18'10" CBH NJ
Montgomery Woods (4).jpg
Redwood Montgomery Woods CA
Founders Grove Tree 44ft8in.jpg
Redwood Founders Grove 44'8"
Monterey Cypress 33ft6in.jpg
Monterey Cypress CA, 33'6" CBH
Cottonwood HalifaxPA 32ft.jpg
Cottonwood 32' CBH PA
Cherrybark Oak 27ft4in 2.jpg
Cherrybark Oak VA, 27'4" CBH
Silver maple Ringos NJ State Champ 25ft3in (7).jpg
Silver Maple 25'3" CBH NJ Champ
Bald Cypress Nj Champ 25ft3in.jpg
Bald Cypress 25'3" CBH NJ
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Tulip Poplar 19'3" 128' tall, Haddonfield NJ
Red maple 1.jpg
Red Maple, Champ NJ, 22'5" CBH
Walnut va 2.JPG
Black Walnut Virginia, Champ 17'3" CBH
Northern Red Oak Mantua 16ft.jpg
Red Oak 17ft CBH
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#2)  Re: Its time to play...Multi-trunk or Single-trunk! YOU deci

Postby Don » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:06 am

Johnny-
I'll bite...all of them but the tulip poplar are multi-stemmed.  Have you tried bringing them into a Powerpoint environment and delineating where you think the pith is?
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#3)  Re: Its time to play...Multi-trunk or Single-trunk! YOU deci

Postby John Harvey » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:18 am

I think they are all multi stemmed except 3 and 8. Some of the examples are obviously very old and have fused together so nicely that its harder to tell for the untrained eye. I haven't put any of them on PowerPoint yet, plan on using it soon though.
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#4)  Re: Its time to play...Multi-trunk or Single-trunk! YOU deci

Postby Don » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:20 pm

John D-
Are you sure about #3.  I mean you were there, and saw more than this side of the tree, but it sure looks like a second stem fusing...albeit subtley.
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#5)  Re: Its time to play...Multi-trunk or Single-trunk! YOU deci

Postby Will Blozan » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:32 pm

Silver maple #1 single
Redwood #1 multi
Redwood #2 need more pics
Monterey cypress multi
Cottonwood multi
Cherry bark multi
Silver maple #2 multi
Baldcypress multi
Tuliptree single
Red maple single (a bit hesitant but the well formed saddle points towards a low fork) More photos?
Walnut single? more photos
Red oak multi

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#6)  Re: Its time to play...Multi-trunk or Single-trunk! YOU deci

Postby Jess Riddle » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:10 pm

Silver maple #1 single
Redwood #1 multi
Redwood #2 single, unless the stems are in line from this perspective
Monterey cypress multi
Cottonwood multi
Cherry bark multi
Silver maple #2 multi
Baldcypress multi
Tuliptree single
Red maple  who knows?
Walnut single
Red oak multi

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#7)  Re: Its time to play...Multi-trunk or Single-trunk! YOU deci

Postby John Harvey » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:30 pm

The red maple was a tough one for me to decide on too. Here's another shot, slightly closer. I've seen a ton of multi stemmed red maples only much smaller. I think that influenced me to say it was a multi trunk. Its a tough one though.
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#8)  Re: Its time to play...Multi-trunk or Single-trunk! YOU deci

Postby John Harvey » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:33 pm

Here's another shot of redwood #2 and the black walnut.
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#9)  Re: Its time to play...Multi-trunk or Single-trunk! YOU deci

Postby Chris » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:57 pm

I agree with Jess's list. This is just guessing on my part, but on the red maple it almost seems like maybe there used to be a more vertical stem, but is now gone (you can kind of see a scar on top of the fork). The larger stem on the right took over with the man stem was lost and the left one sprouted off the stem close to the ground since now half of the canopy was gone.
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#10)  Re: Its time to play...Multi-trunk or Single-trunk! YOU deci

Postby bbeduhn » Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:21 pm

I agree for the most part but that walnut really looks suspicious.  I've seen red maples with similar structure and would lean toward single but I'm not certain.  Even the tulip looks a little suspicious with a possible seam running down the trunk.  The branch has enough of a curve to let it go as a single and the trunk is well rounded.  One pic is often not enough to go on.
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