A bit of a mystery hickory

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James Parton
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Re: A bit of a mystery hickory

Post by James Parton » Thu May 31, 2012 12:02 am

I thought I would post a few pictures from our outing.
Will and Giant Hickory.JPG
Will and Giant Hickory
Falls.JPG
Falls
Fraser's Sedge.JPG
Fraser's Sedge
Into The Forest!.JPG
Into the Forest
Old Growth Tuliptree.JPG
Old Growth Tuliptree
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Re: A bit of a mystery hickory

Post by Jess Riddle » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:38 pm

Will,

I agree with your assessment. Based on the bark, I would lean towards C. alba, but all the other features seem to subtly point towards C. glabra var. glabra. Definitely not C. cordiformis.

Jess

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Re: A bit of a mystery hickory

Post by Will Blozan » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:10 am

Jess,

I'm glad you weighed in on this one. Yes, the twigs were way too fine for C. alba. The crown form also did not suggest C cordiformis. Here are some shots.
Full tree stitch
Full tree stitch
Crown detail
Crown detail
The tree was 11'8" CBH x 145' tall X 77' spread.

Will

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Re: A bit of a mystery hickory

Post by James Parton » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:38 pm

Will,

That new camera does stitches well.

How does those hickories compare with other large ones of the species?

James
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Re: A bit of a mystery hickory

Post by bbeduhn » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:39 pm

Despite seven leaves showing in the photo, I like red hickory on this tree. The leading three leaves are huge and on pignut they're usually quite small. Red does have the ocassional seven leaved twig. The bark looks a little smooth for red but red can have a fairly tight weave. The nut shows either glabra or red. The upper crown's bark is a bit different but still looks to be red. The twig appears to be fairly large but I can't really tell exactly how large, adding to the liklihood of red. Do you remember how high up it was? The forest does look a little rich for red but that bark in both pattern and color sure look like red rather than pignut.

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Will Blozan
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Re: A bit of a mystery hickory

Post by Will Blozan » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:56 pm

Brian,

I know C. ovalis pretty well and would never think this to be a "classic" red. Not even an unusual red. It is so similar to classic pignut ("smooth bark hickory) I have seen on the coast I am still inclined to stick with the ID of glabra. Also, habitat is terribly wrong for red.

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Re: A bit of a mystery hickory

Post by Bart Bouricius » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:37 am

That settles it, a new species, how about Carya blozapart. Actually you can see 7 leaflets on at least 4 and possibly 5 compound leaves in the image of leaves. I see none with clearly 5 leaflets. Other than that I am not adequately versed in hickory.

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Re: A bit of a mystery hickory

Post by Joe » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:13 am

James Parton wrote:intensified studies in the second and now third level of my druid courses

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So, just curious, but... what are the job prospects for a graduate Druid?

Joe

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