Greensboro Watershed and Adjoining Parks

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Greensboro Watershed and Adjoining Parks

Post by bbeduhn » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:58 pm

I was in Greensboro, NC for Thanksgiving. I did some measuring in the Greensboro Watershed and adjoining parks. I'll continue to measure a section each time I get back that way. I did two sections this past weekend. This is slightly out of white pine's range so that species is primarily planted. The Virginia pine was the surprise. It is the most dominant pine in most areas. The loblolly may be more plentiful but tends to grow in groves. The VP is quite tall despite being on the edge of its range, much like in the southern Blue Ridge Escarpment.


Am. Elm 67.0
Virg. pine 102.9
White pine 79.7
Shortleaf pine 104.2
Loblolly pine 118.5
Pignut hickory 119.5
Shagbark hick 114.4 (I believe it's the southern shag)
Mock hick 119.8
White oak 113.0
Scarlet oak 110.5
Black oak 101.7
N. red oak 119.4
S. red oak 101.5
Redcedar 76.7
Sweetgum 113.0
Red maple 96.0
Beech 99.0
Green ash 102.0
Sourwood 68.5
Tuliptree 140.6

RI 5 = 123.56
RI 10 = 117.29
RI 20 = 103.04

Tuliptree heights: 125.5 126 126 128.8 131.5 131.5 132 133 137.7 138 140.6

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Re: Greensboro Watershed and Adjoining Parks

Post by Will Blozan » Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:54 pm

Brian,

Damn, I was also in G-boro this past week (my brother lives there). I went to Bur-Mil and found red oaks over 130 and tuliptree pushing 150. I have also surveyed Hamilton Lakes Park which has some beauts- including a near National champion VA pine. The Greensboro Arboretum has a co-champ VA pine and ash over 130'.

Will

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Re: Greensboro Watershed and Adjoining Parks

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:15 am

I haven't made it to the arboretum yet. I found a 138' tulip at Bur Mil park. I didn't get far off the trail but the 138' was young (45 yrs. or so) and surrounded by similar heights. Bur Mil has an awful lot of tall trees considering how young the forest is. The red oaks are truly outstanding there but my best was 119.4'. The VA pines are impressive and ubiquitous! I'll try to hit the arboretum next trip.

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Re: Greensboro Watershed and Adjoining Parks

Post by bbeduhn » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:42 am

I didn't make it to the arboretum but did get to check out a couple of sites in Greensboro over the weekend.

Price Park is a small park on the north side but it has a woodland trail so I figured it might have a nice collection of trees. I was not disappointed. A 1.3 mile loop runs through the woodlands. A small portion has been cut in the last 20 years and there's a power line cut running through it but it is primarily mature forest.

Tuliptree 120.5' 120.6' 122.3' 125.6' 127.3' 127.8' 131.5'
Black oak 107.3' 107.5' 110.0' 115.1'
White oak 101' 101.3' 110.5' 118.9'
Red oak 104.3' 110.5' 117.9'
White ash 108.5'
Sweetgum 113.5'
Pignut hickory 117.9'
mock hickory 97'
Persimmon 82.5'
Beech 98' 114'
Red maple 92'
Hornbeam 31'
Sycamore 103.5' 107.4' 128.6'
Shortleaf pine 92.1' 93.7' 106.5'
Loblolly pine 92' 98.4'
Virginia pine 87.8' 91.0' 95.9'

Rucker 10--117.8'
Rucker 5--124.1'

I also visited Guilford Courthouse Military Historic site. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilford_C ... itary_Park
This Revolutionary War site figured to have some very old growth trees. Unfortunately, the push for a park began in 1886 and it was established in 1917, during the Great War. There exist some old growth trees but no true old growth forest. The tulips have some age as do the white oaks.

Tuliptree 124.6' 13' cbh
125.5' 13' cbh
126.5' 128.3' 131.4' 132' 132.1'
Sycamore 115.6'
shagbark hick 92'
White ash 96'
sweetgum 98.8'
white oak 107'
redcedar 66.2'
longleaf pine 59.5'
so. magnolia 63.7'
shortleaf pine 94.1'
virginia pine 95' 96' 102.4' 102.5'

No Rucker for this site. I didn't get enough oaks or loblollys. Stands of virginia pines towered overhead. They dominated a good sized piece of forest. I'll keep an eye on them in the future. Pics should follow tonight.

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Re: Greensboro Watershed and Adjoining Parks

Post by bbeduhn » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:05 pm

One of two ~4' diameter tulips
One of two ~4' diameter tulips
Craggy tulip crown-only 2' diameter but deeply furrowed bark
Craggy tulip crown-only 2' diameter but deeply furrowed bark
Interesting bark feature.  ID?
Interesting bark feature. ID?
the tree is located next to a stream
the tree is located next to a stream

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Re: Greensboro Watershed and Adjoining Parks

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:35 pm

Nat Greene Trail

This trail is in the Greensboro Watershed. It has gently sloping terrain with a number of washouts to the south and a reservoir to the north. The soil is rather rich. Oaks and pines thrive along this trail. I didn't have time to measure as much as I'd liked to. Virginia pine routinely approaches 100'. The tallest white oak is at the point where I had to turn back. I'll do the other half the next time I'm in Greensboro. The hardwoods reached greater age at the turn around point so I'm hoping that trend continues.

Liquidambar styraciflua sweetgum 122.3' 116.7'

Fraxinus biltmoreana Biltmore ash 101.2'

Carya glabra pignut hickory 131.2' 127.7' 123.8' 122.8' 120.4' 118.9' 116.9' 116.4'

Carya ovalis red hickory 114.9'

Pinus Virginiana Va pine 112.5' 107.4' 104.8'

Pinus echinata shortleaf pine 121.7' 111.6' 110.3'

Quercus phellos willow oak 104.4'

Quercus falcata southern red oak 117.5' 115.9' 111.0'

Quercus velotina black oak 119.6' 114.4' 111.6' 111.4'

Quercus rubra red oak 120.9' 116.9' 115.9'

Quercus alba white oak 132.2' 124.1' 122.3' 118.1' 118.0' 117.5'

Liriodendron tulipifera tuliptree 136.3' 133.2' 132.5' 130.5'

Rucker is already at 124.91' with half of the trail. I'll work on a Rucker for the city of Greensboro at some point in the near future. Will also frequents Greensboro so between the two of us we should have it well covered.

The tall white oak had some age and was growing on a bluff above the reservoir. It still had a crown full of leaves so it may go even higher. I'll get a crown spread as it was rather large for a forest grown tree.

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Re: Greensboro Watershed and Adjoining Parks

Post by Larry Tucei » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:57 pm

Brian- Wow you are a measuring machine! That's a lot of time measuring. What a diverse group of trees to. Larry

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Re: Greensboro Watershed and Adjoining Parks

Post by bbeduhn » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:22 am

Nat Greene Trail pt. II

I picked up where I left off last time. The white oak didn't come out any taller but the tulips certainly did.

Pinus taeda loblolly 129.1' 124.4' 122.5' 122.4' 122.2'

Pinus echinata shortleaf 97.6'

Pinus virginiana Va pine 101.0'

Fraxinus biltmoreana biltmore ash 117.1'

Nyssa sylvatica black gum 114.4' 107.8'

Liquidambar styraciflua sweetgum 127.7' 118.2'

Platanus occidentalis sycamore 130.2' 123.1'

Acer rubrum red maple 115.8'

Acer saccharum sugar maple 100.0' 97.8'

Juglans nigra black walnut 102.9'

Betula nigra river birch 76.5'

Carya septentrionalis southern shagbark 118.0' 107.1'

Carya glabra pignut 117.7'

Quercus alba white oak 126.4'

Quercus rubra red oak 129.2' 129.1' 127.6'

Liriodendron tulipifera tulip 146.5' 145.1' 144.4' 141.8' 141.2'

These tulips are the tallest trees I've measured in Greensboro so far.

Just off the trail I measured a dawn redwood to 108.4', the first one to break 100' in Greensboro.

The Nat Green R10 is up to 128.54'

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