Mountains-to-Sea Trail @ Craven Gap

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Mountains-to-Sea Trail @ Craven Gap

Post by bbeduhn » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:12 am

On Saturday, I spent 5 hours measuring in a fine second growth forest. It has many mature trees, some of great height. The elevation is 3000-3200 feet. It's mostly sloping. My 550 rangefinder couldn't penetrate as well as I'd like it to. The tulips are quite tall but I didn't get any spectacular readings on them. In November, I expect to top 150' on the tulips. The suprises were many forest grown walnuts and tall sourwoods. The tallest sourwood grows in an area thoroughly dominated by chestnut oaks, sourwood and mtn. laurel. This is an old forest.

Walnut Jungus nigra 102' 103'
White Ash Fraxinuss Americana 110' 115' 117' 120'
Black oak Quercus velutina 102.5'
White oak Quercus alba 112' 116'
Chestnut oak Quercus Montana 97' 105' 105'
White pine Pinus strobus 119'
Pignut hickory Carya glabra 123'
Mockernut hick Carya tomentosa 101.5' 107'
Black birch Betula lenta 77' 85.5'
Tuliptree Liriodendron tulipfera 115' 120' 121.5' 123' 123' 123' 125' 127' 127' 129' 130' 133'
Sourwood Oxydendrum arboreum 59' 59' 60' 61' 63' 66' 72' 81'

MTS @ route 74
White pine Pinus strobus 123' 10'7'' 131' 11'+
Shortleaf pine Pinus echinata 103'
Pitch pine Pinus Rigida 99'

I'm keeping a Ruker of the MTS Trail in the Asheville area. It is currently @ 120.4'. I haven't measured any sycamores yet and the tulips should yield much better results so it's just a preliminary figure for now. 130' is a possibility but is doubtful.
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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail @ Bull Gap

Post by James Parton » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:29 am

Where is Bull Gap? It sounds mighty familiar.
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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail @ Bull Gap

Post by bbeduhn » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:17 am

It's at the intersection of Town Mountain and the BRP. The area I measured issouth of Bull Gap. I was planning on measuring for an hour and then heading up to Craggy to measure the big hawthorns but spent too much time and didn't make it up to Craggy.

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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail @ Bull Gap

Post by James Parton » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:29 am

I measured some trees in or near that area back in the spring. On the Mountain to Sea trail near Rattlesnake Lodge.

I have intended to get up to those hawthorns too. Lately my mother's cancer has gotten much worse and I have been staying really close to home.
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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail @ Craven Gap

Post by bbeduhn » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:18 am

It's actually Craven Gap, not Bull Gap. Bull Gap is close to Rattlesnake Lodge, which has some nice white oaks. I haven't measured there yet. I remember reading about your measurements up there.

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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail @ Craven Gap

Post by James Parton » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:46 am

I gotta get out and get some " forest time " and measure some trees.
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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail @ Craven Gap

Post by bbeduhn » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:23 am

I finally got back to measure this section with no leaves on the trees. A few measurements and a few corrections.

The black oak @ 127' is actually a red oak @ 123.7'. I figured I had those confused. That would be an impressive number for a black oak. The ironwood originally mentioned is black birch.

liriodendron tulipfera tuliptree 138.6' 133.9' 134.4' 133' 131.8' 131'
quercus rubra red oak 123.7'
quercus velutina blk oak 106.9'
quercus alba white oak 114.4' 110.5'
fraxinus americana white ash 121.6' 121' 119.7'
carya glabra var. ovata red hickory 122.6' 117.1'
prunus serotina blk cherry 114.7'
robinia pseudoacacia blk locust 110.2' 110.1'

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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail @ Craven Gap

Post by dbhguru » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:05 am

Brian,

When the 550 can't penetrate the clutter and it is a tree you really want to measure, there's the EBLM method. I admit, that EBLM is work, but delvers the goods when it is needed. I'd never use EBLM when the Forestry 550, TruPulse 200/360 or any laser rangefinder and clinometer can be used for sine top-sine bottom calculations. EBLM is our final fall back position. When Monica and I come down in April, I'll demo it for you if you wish.

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Re: Mountains-to-Sea Trail @ Craven Gap

Post by bbeduhn » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:42 pm

Bob,
I'm not familiar with it. Sure, I'm open to giving it a try. I've cleared out the weekend you'll be in the area and will probably take a day off work as well. Thanks.

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