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Re: Green Lakes State Park, New York

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:07 pm
by ElijahW
NTS,

The witch hazel in question I measured this morning to 41.0' x 10", currently the tallest known in NY, I believe.

Elijah

Re: Green Lakes State Park, New York

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:02 pm
by ElijahW
NTS,

I did some measuring at Green Lakes this afternoon, and have a few updates to share.  All previous measurements I’ve made here were done with my old Nikon 440 and clinometer, so I was expecting some different results this time with my Trupulse.  A couple of trees earned promotions, but most ended up slightly shorter than before.  Here’s a list of trees measured:

Tuliptree

150.0’ x 10.45’ (new to the list)

Bitternut Hickory

140.8’ x 5.07’ (previously 141.8’)
138.7’ x 8.83’ (previously 139.8’)

Sugar Maple

129.2’ x 6.27’ (previously 131.6’; I think the top recently broke on this tree)

American Basswood

132.4’ x 7.78’ (previously 133.0’)

American Beech

125.2’ x 6.04’ (previously 125.8’)

Eastern Cottonwood

125.1’ x 7.83’ (last measured by Jess Riddle to 117’ in 2011)

The Rucker Height Index remains nearly identical, at 131.7’.

I’ll continue re-measuring trees with the Trupulse as time and weather allow.

Elijah

Re: Green Lakes State Park, New York

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:34 am
by dbhguru
Elijah,

  Great job keeping this extraordinary site on the radar. Are you putting these and other NY measurements into the VA Tech database? If not, I'd be happy to help.

Bob

Re: Green Lakes State Park, New York

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:47 pm
by ElijahW
Thanks, Bob.  Yes, except for the cottonwood and tuliptree, these are already in the database. I do need to update the dimensions, though.

Elijah

Re: Green Lakes State Park, New York

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:45 pm
by Erik Danielsen
Verily, the price we pay for commitment to accuracy is to shave the margins of our height record specimens when we upgrade to more accurate equipment! The Chestnut Oak and White Oak at Inwood Hill were similar for me.

For some species, Green Lakes and Zoar are incredibly neck-and-neck. The revised Sugar Maple height puts two at Zoar slightly taller. The margin is slim in the other direction on Basswood, Hemlock and Beech as well. Each has one 140+ bitternut plus one other just a touch short of that milestone. White Ash at Green Lakes isn't far behind, though the sheer number of 135-139' specimens at Zoar is unusual. Tuliptree and Sycamore are the only really big margins. Considering Zoar's dramatic topography, the trees of Green Lakes are all the more impressive.