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Re: The Leverett White Fir

Matt,

Ol' Bob takes a lot of ribbing (at least from me), and pokes fun at himself regularly. But he really deserves a huge amount of credit and thanks for the lifetime of work he's done across the country. Heck, I'm worn out just trying to see all the places he's trodden in Western Mass! So, I think it's great that he has a fine tree named for him, he sure does deserve it. Plus, he promised to reduce the number of ice cream scoops I owe him if I said so. Thank you!
by RayA
Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:39 pm
 
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Re: Remeasure, 124.83' White Pine, Carlisle, MA

Yes Jared, I know the tree well, it's a pole with a very stripped crown, the Carlisle tall pines that remain are barely hanging on. A fine remnant grove though.
-AJ
by AndrewJoslin
Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:17 pm
 
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Rochester, NY Area Oct. 30, 2016

NTS,

On Sunday Oct. 30, 2016, Elijah Whitcomb and I explored Abraham Lincoln Park (formerly Irondequoit Bay Park East) on the east shore of Irondequoit Bay east of Rochester, NY. The park is covered with tall 2nd growth forest, and contains the tallest Sassafras trees yet seen in NY, and possibly the Northeast. The forest is dominated by Oaks, especially Red and Black Oaks. The weather turned nasty, with a cold, steady rain starting when we were at the farthest point of our hike, near the tall Sassafras trees. This bad weather, and the wet, muddy, steep, mostly unmaintained trail, made it difficult to concentrate on trees. The upper part of the forest is filled with invasive plants; much further down the steep ravines are many tall native trees, especially the grove of tall Sassafras trees, densely clustered together on a steep hill. The tree were still mostly green, still in leaf, incredible for this time of year this far north.

Trees seen at Abraham Lincoln Park include Red Oak, Black Oak, White Oak (few), Basswood, Red Maple, Sugar Maple, Beech, Sassafras (common), Tuliptree, Cottonwood, Bigtooth Aspen, Black Birch, Yellow Birch, White Ash, Pignut Hickory, Willow, Hophornbeam, possible European Elm species (leaf like Elm or Hophornbeam, bark like rougher Shadbush, but not as smooth as Hornbeam, small trees), Butternut, Ailanthus (tall), White Pine (few), Hemlock (few), Norway Spruce (plantation near top of hill).

It rained all the rest of the time when we were in the Rochester area, so we drove around and through parks, including Lucien Morin Park, Irondequoit Bay Park West, Seneca Park in Rochester, and Powder Mills Park in Pittsford (hills covered with what could be old growth Oak forest).

Trees Measured with Elijah Whitcomb Rochester, NY Area Oct. 30, 2016:

Abraham Lincoln Park east of Irondequoit Bay:

Cottonwood
128+ straight up shot (tree over 130 ft. tall – Elijah)

Sassafras
120 tallest NY, possibly tallest Northeast
96.1
110.5
105.5
101.5
100.6

White Oak
84.9

Seneca Park, Rochester:

Persimmon
73.5 6’1” cbh (23.2” dbh) tallest NY (Elijah), possible NY champion, corresponds to tree on NY champion list

Trees at Seneca Park not measured for height:

Sassafras
9’4” cbh (35.6” dbh), battered tree, low broken top

Table Mountain Pine
small tree with spiky cones, possible NY champion, corresponds to tree on NY champion list

Turkish Oak
(Quercus cerris) small leaves, big open-grown tree

Powder Mills Park, Pittsford:

Shagbark Hickory
99.8

Tom Howard
by tomhoward
Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:18 am
 
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Adirondack Outing Oct. 19, 2016

NTS,

On Wed. Oct. 19, 2016, Elijah Whitcomb and I went to Paul Smith’s College in the northern Adirondacks. We left North Syracuse after 7 AM, took I-81 north to Watertown, US 11 northeast through farm country to Potsdam, NY 11B east to Nicholville (in this area saw 2 corky Rock Elms in field among Amish farms), NY 458 into the Adirondack Park (through Santa Clara Experimental Forest – all 2nd growth) to NY 30, NY 30 south to Paul Smith’s College. It was a beautiful cool day, more sun than clouds with temperatures from 60 to 64 F. Most of the forest we traveled through is lovely 2nd growth with lots of White Pine (towering above all other trees), Balsam Fir, Red Spruce, Aspen, Yellow Birch, some Jack Pine, Hemlock, White Cedar, Sugar Maple, Red Maple, Beech, Paper Birch, Black Cherry. In the frequent swampy and boggy areas were plenty of White Pine (tallest tree), Balsam Fir, Black Spruce, Tamarack (starting to turn gold), some White Cedar. Maples were mostly past peak, but Aspens (Quaking and Bigtooth) were at peak, with mostly yellow and gold, some orange.

At the Paul Smith’s College VIC (Visitor Interpretive Center, a large outdoor area with many trails), Elijah and I met Rob Leverett and Betty Austin, and then Rob’s father Bob Leverett and Bob’s wife Monica. We walked along a beautiful easy nature trail through a lovely 2nd growth forest dominated by fragrant Balsam Fir, White Pine (the trees we came to see – lovely, fragrant, the largest and tallest trees, but not nearly as tall as expected), Yellow Birch (oldest trees, ancient, gnarly, with lots of character – especially one by bridge over stream – Bob Leverett said these picturesque Yellow Birches could easily be about 250 years old – the only old trees in this forest). Associate trees include Red Spruce (should be there, but I did not note it during the visit), Paper Birch, Bigtooth Aspen (some big), Hemlock (some big), Beech, Sugar Maple, Red Maple, Striped Maple, Black Cherry (some big).

The big White Pines should be 100-150 years old; one of the biggest is 35.8” dbh (9.4 ft. cbh) – Bob Leverett measured this tree to 108 ft. All these White Pines looked taller than they turned out to be.

Bob Leverett and I measured a typical Balsam Fir to 81 ft.

One of the biggest White Pines (10 ft., 7” cbh, 40.4” dbh) was measured by Bob Leverett to 113.5 ft. This is the tallest tree we would measure at this site. The tallest White Pines at this site could be about 120 ft. I measured a flat-topped White Pine to about 110 ft. above eye level.

The area where the big White Pines grow is at the edge of a marsh, and strong winds limit their height. It was still absolutely glorious to be among them, and the wind through the pines made a wonderful sound.

I measured a Bigtooth Aspen to 64.4 ft.

Rob Leverett talked enthusiastically about bigger and older trees near Cherry Patch Pond to the east (beyond Lake Placid), and he wanted to show them to us, so we went there next.

Bob Leverett said he measured a Balsam Poplar to 92 ft.+ by the motel in Keene Valley, NY where he and Monica were staying. He asked me if I had much information about Balsam Poplar heights. I said I only knew of one Balsam Poplar in British Columbia at 91 ft. – Bob was pleasantly surprised that the tree he measured could be the tallest known of that species.

Bob Leverett told us of a Quaking Aspen he measured near Stockbridge, MA to 108 ft. – this could be the Eastern height record; he measured a taller Quaking Aspen in Colorado.

We followed Rob Leverett to Cherry Patch Pond through beautiful country, with White Pines everywhere along the roads, on NY 86 through Saranac Lake, with White Pines lining lakeshores, with awesome views of the High Peaks (possibly including NY’s highest point, Mt. Marcy, at 5344 ft.), and to northeast other high mountains, including Whiteface, which reached into the clouds.

We took a back road, which bypassed the center of Lake Placid, a road which took us past the Olympic Training Center and by the towering Olympic Ski Jumps. There were many big Aspens among the White Pines. We drove through a forest with plenty of White Spruce, the most of that species I’ve ever seen in NY.

We stopped on NY 86 at the small parking lot at the beginning of the Cherry Patch Pond Trail, in a beautiful setting of high hills topped by White Pines over 120 ft. tall, and a marsh backed by a high ridge that seems to be covered with old growth White Pine-Hardwood forest.

The trail through the Cherry Patch Pond forest was rugged, narrow, rocky, with steep ups and downs. The trail goes through a beautiful old growth forest dominated by Red Spruce, Balsam Fir, Yellow Birch, and eventually near the end of our walk, White Pine. The air was fresh and fragrant with Balsam Fir. Associate trees include White Cedar, Sugar Maple, Red Maple, Striped Maple, Beech, Black Cherry. Groundcover includes Bunchberry Dogwood and Clubmosses.

Rob Leverett said he counted 250 rings on many stumps and cross-sections in this stand.

This forest has many young trees, and in many places the old trees are widely scattered, so there may have been some logging. Downed timber is fairly plentiful, and pit and mound topography is abundant, so wind is a major disturbance. These trees seem to be older than they look. The Red Spruces are exceptionally large.

Elijah measured a 6 ft. 9” cbh (25.8” dbh) Red Spruce to over 96 ft. tall.

Elijah measured a large White Cedar to 74 ft.

We came to a huge Red Spruce, the biggest Red Spruce I’ve ever seen. Bob Leverett thinks this rugged old Red Spruce could be 350 years old. This Red Spruce is 7 ft. 5” cbh (28.3” dbh), and 101 ft. 4” tall, as measured by Elijah.

We came to the edge of the big White Pines, but we were too exhausted, and a lot of time had gone by, so we decided to turn back. Before we turned back, I got a height above eye level of 132.8 ft. on one of the tall-looking White Pines; since the base of this tree is very likely above eye level, this White Pine may not be as tall as that.

A small Red Spruce cross-section had what looked like about 200 tight rings. Rob Leverett has counted 140 rings on a Balsam Fir cross-section in this area, an exceptional age for Balsam Fir.

We returned to our cars, said good-by at the end of this splendid get-together, and Elijah and I continued northeast on NY 86 into the spectacular Wilmington Notch, with old growth White Pines on cliff faces, awesome views of towering Whiteface Mountain (4865 ft.), Little Whiteface Mountain (3660 ft., with a chairlift to the top), fantastic fall colors on steep gorge slopes, old Red Pines atop cliffs, White Cedars on cliff sides, Hemlocks in the gorge.

Elijah and I turned around at Wilmington, took NY 86 back by Cherry Patch Pond, and into the lovely village of Lake Placid, with its Olympic venues, big fancy hotels, lovely Mirror Lake, big White Pines. We continued on NY 86 west to Saranac Lake, and then NY 3 west to Tupper Lake, through 2nd growth forests in swampy areas with rugged White Pines towering over Balsam Firs, Black Spruces, Tamaracks, White Cedars, Hemlocks. We took NY 3 west across the lower, swampy western Adirondacks, to the Watertown area. There were many White Pines, Sugar Maples with gold, orange, and red leaves illuminated by the setting sun, golden-leafed Aspens, some big Black Cherries. On NY 3A we went by the area where Elijah measured a 93 ft. Jack Pine. We took I-81 back to North Syracuse. The outing took nearly 13 hours from after 7 AM to 8 PM.

Trees Measured by Bob Leverett, Elijah Whitcomb, and Tom Howard
Oct. 19, 2016:

Paul Smith’s College VIC Nature Trail:

White Pine
108 35.8” dbh
113.5 10’7” cbh
about 110

Balsam Fir
81

Bigtooth Aspen
64.4

Cherry Patch Pond:

White Pine
132.8 height above eye level

Red Spruce
96+ 9’6” cbh
101’4” 7’5” cbh

White Cedar
74

Tom Howard Oct. 20, 2016
by tomhoward
Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:08 am
 
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Pike State Forest Report (West of SR 41)

NTS,

I don't know all the ins and outs of Ohio's State Forest High Conservation Value Forest (HCVF) program, but here's a report I created for an environmental organization in an effort to seek additional protections for this site. My next report will be on a very special ravine in Hocking State Forest.

I think that these types of activities help explain one of the reasons for the "why" of our accurate measuring activities, with conservation efforts being one of many reasons for accurate tree dimension measuring.

The PowerPoint presentation looks best in slide show mode:

Pike State Forest (West of SR41) Report.pptx

Matt
by Matt Markworth
Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:15 pm
 
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Erie Big Tree Tour

Ents,

On Veteran's Day, Erie big tree legend, Ken Fromknecht, took me on a whirl-wind tour of several large N. red oaks in Erie County, PA. The largest of the day we measured to 20.8ft CBH. It is at least the 6th largest documented in PA (as per Scott Wade's-PA's big tree coordinator, PA Forestry Association big tree website). I'd argue the 1st is a double, and the 3rd blew over about 15 years ago:

http://www.pabigtrees.com/view_tree.aspx

Here's the day's tally:

Weeping Willow on West Gore Rd, Erie, PA
20.6ft CBH (single!) x 71.7ft high

N. red oak on RT474 Wattsburg, PA
18.6ft CBH

N. red oak on McClelland St., Erie, PA
19.7ft CBH x 100.5ft longest spread x 73.3ft high
335 AF points
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N. red oak Harborcreek, PA
20.8ft CBH x 136.5ft longest spread x 93.6ft high
377 AF points
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This 20.8ft CBH red oak is the largest I've personally measured. What a monster, and in great shape!

Best Regards,

Dale
by djluthringer
Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:51 am
 
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Along the New River Gorge

NTS:
I spent a full day along the New River Gorge area on 11/1/2016.
First stop was at a private residence at near the intersection of Gatewood Road and Cunard Road near Fayetteville, WV. I had spotted some sizable Catalpa yard trees sometime ago and today I found someone home.
Southern Catalpa (Catalpa bignonoides) 71.8’ x 174.4”(14.5’) x 66.8’ CS – two axis method.
The house and tree is located on plateau above the gorge at an elevation of 1950’. The property is presently used as an equestrian center and offers horseback rides throughout the gorge.

Next effort was a hike back to the Stonecliff Old Growth Stand. This site is on National Park Service Land was dedicated into the Old Growth Forest Network last spring.
The site is 2.7 mile hike upriver along the Stonecliff Trail which heads up at the Stonecliff River Access site which is on river left (descending) near Thurmond, WV.

Largest of trees measured included:
Yellow-poplar (Lirodendron tulipifera) 128.7’
Northern Red Oak (Quercus rubra var. rubra) 107.3’
Chinkapin Oak (Quercus muhlenbergii) 92.2’
Bitternut Hickory (Carya cordiformis) 90.5’
Black Maple (Acer nigrum) 86.9’
All trees measured were entered in the Trees Database.
The site is 12 acres+, East facing at 1300 ‘ – 1500’ elevation with slopes to 110%

The hike is easy in dry weather even though there are still a few mushy areas even in the present dry regime. In wet weather I have had to cross side streams calf deep.
It was not good conditions to measure tree heights. The oaks were still in full foliage, somewhat windy, and the millions of gnats were annoying with the less numerous black flies still hungry.
The only tree heights measured were ones of convenience due to visibility. The steep slope and hard dry ground with some leaves and acorns made footing a challenge. A two person crew would be better for measuring circumference, especially if they had some billy goat abilities.
Bigger trees were observed and this site deserves a more thorough visit.
The existence of Chinkapin Oak indicates limestone which must be upslope. I did not observe any while hiking.
by tsharp
Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:09 am
 
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Costa Rica, Tallest tree I have measured yet

Connie and I are back in Costa Rica and I keep gaining more mobility after a protracted recovery from Guillian - Barre Syndrome ( not a tropical disease), which hit me a couple of weeks after Will Blozan, Jess Riddle and I returned from an amazing expedition to Northern Panama. Anyway, let me discuss yesterdays solo visit to Carara National Park, about a 45 minute drive from our house, where I remeasured a Probado tree Pterygota excelsa .
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by Bart Bouricius
Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:55 pm
 
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Re: Tall pitch pine in Blomfelt Conservation Land of Harvard

Jared,

Wow! You da man! That beats any pitch I know about. I'll update our tallest tree of each species in massachusetts list and post it soon.

Bob
by dbhguru
Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:31 pm
 
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Re: Tall pitch pine in Blomfelt Conservation Land of Harvard

Thanks for the post. Yes I remember years ago with Bob band Will measuring Pitch Pines in Forest Park Springfield. They were a little shorter, but some had substantial girths as well. Pitch Pines definitely a gorgeous and Gnarly species.
by Bart Bouricius
Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:22 pm
 
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Re: Tall pitch pine in Blomfelt Conservation Land of Harvard

Jared,

Please find attached an updated list of tall tree champions in Mass. Note that your name now appears twice. Maybe we can get out together to update some of the others with Brother Ray treating us to ice cream for our heavy labor afterwards.

Bob
by dbhguru
Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:50 am
 
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Crown Hill North Woods

NTS,

I've been following the news stories about this forest and here's a short article I wrote after visiting the great trees in the Crown Hill North Woods, with a petition link and photos at the end.

https://forestreporter.com/2016/11/23/crown-hill-north-woods-last-visit/

Matt
by Matt Markworth
Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:21 pm
 
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Pockets of lakeshore forest in the area of Dunkirk, NY

While visiting my home region of WNY for the thanksgiving holiday I was invited by my friend Jon Titus (also involved in the SUNY Fredonia Woodlot report thread) to visit a patch of nice forest right along the lake's edge in the city of Dunkirk to measure a big oak. A winding path took us through brushy forest along the top of the shale cliffs that characterize this part of lake erie's shoreline. As a botanist, my friend pointed out an interesting native honeysuckle that's nearly impossible to tell from the invasive eurasian honeysuckle except in flower, among other interesting members of the lakeside flora. Right at the cliff's edge, we found the wind-beaten Red Oak.
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After measuring this tree we continued on a bit, through a forest of mostly other red oaks, though none quite so large, with a stunning carpet of moss covering the ground- and stumbled upon a patch of forest just slightly further back from the cliff's edge where there was a collection of surprisingly old-seeming trees. None were particularly tall but the big Red Oak here and some of the sugar maples in particular showed signs of many years of weathering. This is probably pretty old regrowth that had some seed continuity with the primary forest at one point, as the species mix (climax northern hardwoods) is to my observations pretty uncommon in the younger regrowth of the surrounding area. Perhaps a patch that was fully or partially cleared early on, but never plowed or cultivated, and maintained as a woodlot. I only measured a few trees but very much appreciated the beauty of the site.
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Sugar Maple
84.9'/9.5'cbh
American Beech
84.9'
Black Cherry
79.8'/4.4'cbh
Northern Red Oak
81.9'/14.4'cbh

I also visited a small beach up the shore a ways in Sheridan, where I took some photos but didn't measure any trees. One thing that strikes me about the many red oaks all along the clifftops of this shoreline is that they tend to have exceptionally dark gray bark that stays very smooth in large sections, and what fissures do form are even darker. Whether this is a variation specific to the shore environment or a product of the harsh clifftop growing conditions I don't know, but it's always been very distinct to me. The leaves, buds and acorns are classic rubra. I hope the photographs included here sufficiently convey the intense, but quite exhilarating, shoulder season conditions of heavy winds and constant spray that these trees thrive in.
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by Erik Danielsen
Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:18 pm
 
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Re: Crown Hill North Woods

NTS,

Here's a ~9 minute walk through with some of the most significant trees at the Crown Hill North Woods. Switch the setting to 1080p for the best quality:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpjElrUOiz4

Matt
by Matt Markworth
Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:32 pm
 
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Re: Adirondacks and Lake Champlain

Bob,

I was able make the trek out to Crane Pond this morning, taking the week off from work. I've wanted to see your big tree ever since you first mentioned it. After a long walk through the snow, I identified several likely candidates, but was unable to track it down for sure. I should have re-read your post before making the trip, but I didn't. I was hoping find something you'd missed, but few pines exceeded 140'. Your description of most pines being in the 115-125' range is dead-on. I did however, see some nice second-growth Red Spruce on the trail to nearby Goose Pond, as well as a giant flared-root Yellow birch that measured 9'2" at breast height. In the woods next to the Crane Pond trailhead parking area, I also found a young Red Spruce that came in at 108.5' x 4'5", a personal best for me with one of my favorite trees.

From Crane Pond, I drove North and then East on Rt. 74 and checked out the beginnings of the Blue Hill trail to Crane Pond. Greenent mentioned this trail in a previous post. After just a few steps in, the pines went from attractive second-growth to several massive trees in the 200 year range. Descending an east-facing slope, probably three or four of about a dozen White pines exceed 140'. What I believe are the two tallest stand near or on the trail, and measure, respectively, 154'7" x 11'2" and 150'6" x 13'3". These trees grow in the Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Area, giving it now three pines known to exceed 150' in height and 11' in circumference.

Elijah
by ElijahW
Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:51 pm
 
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Oldest tree in Connecticut?

Hi all,
My name is Jack Ruddat and I am an 18 year old High School student in West Hartford, Connecticut. I have been involved in the science of dendrochronology since 2013 and have kept a list of sampled trees along with their circumference and minimum age. I recently found an eastern redcedar in my home state of Connecticut that is 550+ years old, probably the oldest known tree in Connecticut. The age was verified (with a margin of error due to the missing rings, false rings, fire scars, and missing wood by pith) by a dendrology professor at the University of Connecticut who counted the rings under a stereo microscope. As far as I am aware, the only trees that come close to that age are the 350-400 year old eastern hemlocks in Sage's Ravine in Salisbury, Connecticut. This tree was found in Simsbury, Connecticut on a trap rock basalt ridge and was aged using an increment tree borer. Would this information be of any use to people keeping a list of old trees? I have also found a couple of 250+ year old sugar maples in what I believe to be a very early secondary old growth forest in Ridgefield, Connecticut from the early 1700's and a 200 year old shagbark hickory in West Hartford. I'll attach a picture of the eastern redcedar and a word document of the trees I have found for anyone interested.

Jack Ruddat
by jcruddat
Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:33 pm
 
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Re: Tall pitch pine in Blomfelt Conservation Land of Harvard

Congratulations on your new tool! The new top as well. The LTI units definitely reward patient attention to picking over the details. Maybe you should consider this pitch pine your own true personal christmas tree and make a tradition of remeasuring it around this time every year.
by Erik Danielsen
Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:07 pm
 
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Riverside Cemetery, Baldwinsville, NY

NTS,

Earlier this year, Bob Henry and Tom Howard stumbled upon a very attractive collection of old, large trees in Riverside Cemetery, in the village of Baldwinsville, just a few minutes west of Syracuse, NY. Shortly after, Tom and I returned to see the trees up close and get some measurements. I swung by again this morning to get in a nice walk and in the snow and remeasured the largest trees. The river in the background of the photos and referenced in the cemetery's name is the Seneca.

According to its Facebook page, Riverview was established in 1807, and the oldest trees, mostly White pine, may date from that period. Some trees are obviously younger, but probably still date from the mid- to late-nineteenth century. The pines, though not exceptionally tall, do reach close to the maximum height currently known for the Syracuse area, and show definite signs of age, including orange-tinged platy bark and thick trunks. Tom got a laser return of just over 130' on the tallest one, but I was unable to match that with my equipment. The biggest surprise was a giant black cherry, much larger than any other I've seen. Below is a list of trees remeasured today; Tom may have a few additions from our earlier visit.

White Pine

120.7' x 12'0"
119.8' x 10'9"
118.7' x 10'5"
112.3' x 11'9"
112.0' x 11'9"

Red Spruce

61.6'

Silver Maple

93.3' x 15'2" (Single trunk)

Black Cherry

92.0' x 14'3" x 81.5' Average Crown Spread (10 spokes)

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Merry Christmas everyone,

Elijah
by ElijahW
Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:15 pm
 
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Re: Inwood Hill Park, Manhattan

This warm, sunny christmas Sunday I made my second annual christmas visit to Inwood Hill Park to continue updating the Rucker Index. I've made several visits since I last updated this thread, both with leaves on for better confirmation of species IDs and in fall right after I got my Trupulse to give it some practice. As this thread has gotten pretty messy with a number of repeat measurements, ID revisions etc I'm hoping to summarize everything more definitively in a PDF report by the end of the winter giving a full accounting of the remarkable trees of this unique urban forest. In the meantime, there are some new numbers and trees to report.
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In the summer Matt Markworth came through on his way out to Massachusetts and we took a walk through a much shadier Inwood examining the trees and confirming that Inwood's heavy human impacts have resulted in a very confusing mix of species. Among the interesting revisions were that the Little-Leaf Linden I had measured is probably Basswood after all, but there are at least two and possibly three other Tilia species present, particularly in the ridgetop sections that were more heavily cleared and settled as estates. The tallest hickory turns out to be a Bitternut after all, though there's a largish probably pignut nearby. Later on I found definite red hickories (based on fresh fruits) in a natural forested area of an adjacent park, so those are again still a possibility. A couple very impressively buttressed elms I had previously described here as American (before learning the bark trick) are in fact Wych elms. There are some odd things going on with Mulberries, some obvious whites but also some that seem very red and some intermediate; red mulberry is somewhat rare in NYC.

A big surprise right as Matt was about to hit the road was an enormous Hackberry hiding in the opposite corner of the park by some baseball fields. This is a big tree! From a distance I mistook it for a Silver Maple, realizing it was a Hackberry as I walked closer really knocked my socks off. Sadly the pictures I took of Mark with the Hackberry were lost, but I've visited it since to take more.
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When I visited in fall with my new trupulse I was able to confirm a new top over 150' on the largest of the tulips (previously at 147.4), and also confirm taller heights for the Ginkgo and the Bitternut Hickory. A fairly tall Ailanthus also showed up in the forest- but just one.
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Finally, today, I very carefully remeasured the tallest American Elm, Northern Red Oak, White Oak, and Chestnut Oak, as well as the tallest Black Locust. I intended to remeasure the tallest black oak as well but found it prostrate, much to my regret. It had seemed like a pretty stressed tree before. It leaves us without a tall black oak in the rucker, as all the others are gnarled ridgetop trees. The white oak and chestnut oak both saw sleight height reductions, but the new top on the red oak was very satisfying and the elm and black locust gained a little too.
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All that said, here are the numbers for new or updated trees as mentioned from those visits:

Ginkgo remeasure
119.1'/15.5'cbh
Tuliptree remeasure
151.2'/16.4'cbh 150x16
Ailanthus
105'/6.6'cbh
Hophornbeam
46.5'/3'cbh
Bitternut Hickory remeasure
131.1'/5.2'cbh
Hackberry
93.9'/12.4'cbh
American Elm remeasure
117.5'/6'cbh
White Oak remeasure
124.4'/8.4'cbh
Northern Red Oak remeasures
135.8'/9.6'cbh
130.2'/10.2'cbh
Chestnut Oak remeasure
131'/8.1' circumference taken 1' above fusion to avoid flare
Black Locust remeasure
113.3'

With the new measurements and the black oak dropping out, the RHI10 for Inwood Hill Park stands at 125.7. With more tall trees still unmeasured I believe Welwyn Preserve at 125.6 will overtake this site as SE NY's tallest forest but Inwood's some canopy to beat.
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Happy Holidays to everyone.
by Erik Danielsen
Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:54 pm
 
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Urban Foresty Conference Name Tag

NTS,

I went to an Urban Forestry Conference in October.

One look at the name tag will explain why I'm posting in the Humor Forum:)

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Matt
by Matt Markworth
Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:00 pm
 
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Re: Urban Foresty Conference Name Tag

I don't see any problem, Mike Mattworth.
by ElijahW
Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:58 am
 
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Re: Urban Foresty Conference Name Tag

I'm guessing Mr. Mish Mushworth got accustomed to this by the second week of kindergarden.*

(*Seyz the guy who got called his brother's name all through school-yeah that small of a town)
by Rand
Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:10 am
 
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Re: Urban Foresty Conference Name Tag

Hey, now that's a good sign, Mork.

Bob
by dbhguru
Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:32 pm
 
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Re: Urban Foresty Conference Name Tag

Mork! Love that!

Hey Bob, I have a proposal. I can arrange capsules and we can plan the next rendezvous on the Planet Ork. The trees are amazing! Make sure to bring the long range lasers though, we'll need them for the hypotenuses of our triangles. Oh, one more thing, you may occasionally see me running around the forest yelling Shazbot!, but don't worry, it's contagious!
by Matt Markworth
Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:05 pm
 
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Re: Tall pitch pine in Blomfelt Conservation Land of Harvard

Hi Jared,

Congrats! A 105-foot pitch pines is nothing to sneeze at. Thanks to you, there's hope for significant tree discoveries in eastern MA.

Oh yes, Sparky is anxious to meet Spiffy. Sparky wants to start an exclusive 200X club. Elijah has a 200X and so does Doug Bidlack. They have to name their instruments though, Can't have any anonymous members in the club.

Bob
by dbhguru
Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:51 pm
 
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