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Re: Green Lakes State Park, New York

Verily, the price we pay for commitment to accuracy is to shave the margins of our height record specimens when we upgrade to more accurate equipment! The Chestnut Oak and White Oak at Inwood Hill were similar for me. For some species, Green Lakes and Zoar are incredibly neck-and-neck. The revised S...
by Erik Danielsen
Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:45 pm
 
Forum: New York
Topic: Green Lakes State Park, New York
Comments: 24
Views: 1692

Re: LiDAR for Zoar Valley MUA

It looks like that 155' hit is the tree I measured to 161.9', seems to be the exact same spot when I check the coordinates. The 162' hit on this tile is further south than I traveled, and does look like it's right on the edge of a cliff, but I'll try to check it out when I get a chance. The whole ar...
by Erik Danielsen
Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:13 pm
 
Forum: New York
Topic: LiDAR for Zoar Valley MUA
Comments: 11
Views: 294

Re: Zoar Valley Update

Yeah, I suspect they may hit similar heights to sugar maple at both sites. From what I've been able to tell black maple often has a "tighter" bark than sugar, sometimes more ridged than plated, almost like the difference between white oak and red oak but to a lesser degree of difference. T...
by Erik Danielsen
Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:03 pm
 
Forum: New York
Topic: Zoar Valley Update
Comments: 35
Views: 1981

Re: Zoar Valley Update

10/25 A scouting trip along the north rim going west past the knife-edge ridge took me through a mix of old growth and second growth. Hybrid Saul's oak made an appearance, along with black tupelo (some very old) and sassafras, not found elsewhere in the gorge. Emergent white pines visible from afar ...
by Erik Danielsen
Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:42 pm
 
Forum: New York
Topic: Zoar Valley Update
Comments: 35
Views: 1981

Re: Zoar Valley Update

A few photos to accompany the last post. I can't figure out how to get them to display right side up in the post, but when you click on them they load in the correct orientation.
by Erik Danielsen
Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:49 pm
 
Forum: New York
Topic: Zoar Valley Update
Comments: 35
Views: 1981

Re: LiDAR for Zoar Valley MUA

That 150' target is on end of the terrace where we found the green ash and black ash, Elijah. I don't think we measured it. All the sections I had previously known as tallest/oldest are within the coverage area. The 161' Tulip is actually within the covered area, at 42:25:57.4905 N, 78:53:48.9197 W....
by Erik Danielsen
Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:42 pm
 
Forum: New York
Topic: LiDAR for Zoar Valley MUA
Comments: 11
Views: 294

Re: Gosnell Big Woods Preserve, Town of Webster, Monroe Coun

Nice work! You're really racking up tall lake ontario sites. Is that 16'cbh northern red oak a tree with any height, or is it an open-grown tree getting shaded out? Forest-grown red oaks over 14'cbh are another "club" I've been interested in since seeing that big one at Long Point. There s...
by Erik Danielsen
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:35 am
 
Forum: New York
Topic: Gosnell Big Woods Preserve, Town of Webster, Monroe County
Comments: 3
Views: 106

Re: LiDAR for Zoar Valley MUA

Interesting. I still wonder if it could have been that broken pine. There was also a basswood further down the slope, a good big tree, leaning out at nearly a 45 degree angle with a large crown that looked like the perfect setup for an exaggerated hit. While 150-160+ hits are the most exciting, of c...
by Erik Danielsen
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:25 am
 
Forum: New York
Topic: LiDAR for Zoar Valley MUA
Comments: 11
Views: 294

Re: Zoar Valley Update

On saturday 12/9/2017 I left the Point Peter Rd parking lot in pursuit of a LiDAR hit suggesting a 165' tree on or above the terrace with the tallest cottonwood. I've posted in the Zoar LiDAR thread discussing the broken white pine that may have been responsible for the reading. In approaching the t...
by Erik Danielsen
Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:17 pm
 
Forum: New York
Topic: Zoar Valley Update
Comments: 35
Views: 1981

Re: LiDAR for Zoar Valley MUA

In pursuit of the 164.7' hit, I approached from the upper plateau. At a point on the rim above the indicated location, I looked down to see a snapped-off white pine rising from a point on the slope below. I roughed it out to about 90' still standing, with a healthy secondary crown developing, but th...
by Erik Danielsen
Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:56 pm
 
Forum: New York
Topic: LiDAR for Zoar Valley MUA
Comments: 11
Views: 294
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